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Ready for Sunday. Wish I were there.

Incredible!

First win at Etihad against the Cats! Really dented their premiership aspirations! Wonder what Henderson thinks now!

I was out at lunch and following the game on my mobile. Just got back home to listen to the last few minutes on the radio. Ridiculously good win by the boys.

Very glad to have egg on my face after tipping the Cats. Terrific effort by the boys. Very well done.

While we are only just starting our journey with a bit to go we are now a real football team again!

Murphy had barely a touch: I assume he was injured. That makes this result stand out even more! Not to mention that 2 cripples had to play!

@Crash...
Murphy did his ankle after just 9 minutes.
Sumner made it to 20mins before suffering a similar fate.

2 on the bench all game.

Army injured late and a couple others required treatment.

One word - GUTSY.

Goes to show just how horrific the decision to let Mick Malthouse get his hands on this club was imo.

Players like Gibbs are reinvigorated and playing like they are in the top few mids in the competition, yet everyone wanted them gone. Kreuzer breaks the record for tackles by any Carlton player in a game vs Geelong.. KREUZER!!!

In the last quarter it still would not have bothered me if Cats had overrun us (well it would have, but I still would have been stoked with the effort by this group to that stage), but instead we were still the better team in the last as well.

Bolton is already shoe-in for Coach of the Year imo, with no disrespect to Roos, Scott, Scott or anyone else.
He turned one of the least competitive units in the competition into a real football team again, 2 years earlier than ANYONE could have imagined.

Good to see the naysayers in the in game thread eating their words!

Go Blues, club spirit has returned!

Sam Rowe, best bugger all possession game of all time!

Just looking at the stats: the 1st chance I've had:
Gibbs: 34 possessions and 8 tackles!
Curnow: 29 possessions and 9 tackles!
Docherty: 29 possessions and 8 marks
Cripps: 29 possessions and 7 tackles!
Kreuzer: 14 possessions, 18 taps and 11 tackles! (only 1 mark :( )

@Crash...
Murphy did his ankle after just 9 minutes.
Sumner made it to 20mins before suffering a similar fate.

2 on the bench all game.

Army injured late and a couple others required treatment.

One word - GUTSY.

With 2 on the bench for most of the game, and 2 very suspect big men, that says something about the SPIRIT in this group!

Just looking at the stats: the 1st chance I've had:
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Kreuzer: 14 possessions, 18 taps and 11 tackles! (only 1 mark :( )

What a spud, bring back Warnock! :D

Goes to show just how horrific the decision to let Mick Malthouse get his hands on this club was imo.

Players like Gibbs are reinvigorated and playing like they are in the top few mids in the competition, yet everyone wanted them gone. Kreuzer breaks the record for tackles by any Carlton player in a game vs Geelong.. KREUZER!!!

In the last quarter it still would not have bothered me if Cats had overrun us (well it would have, but I still would have been stoked with the effort by this group to that stage), but instead we were still the better team in the last as well.

Bolton is already shoe-in for Coach of the Year imo, with no disrespect to Roos, Scott, Scott or anyone else.
He turned one of the least competitive units in the competition into a real football team again, 2 years earlier than ANYONE could have imagined.

Great post MIO - nice to have you back around.

Crazy ass win. One of the best I can remember.

One of the best 4 qtr consistent efforts I have seen for a while, no real lapses in concentration , team game , team win

Crazy ass win. One of the best I can remember.

That just about sums it up. Great screwing win Carlton ,

There's an old footy saying that goes ..."A champion team will always beat a team of champions"

That was a champion team effort. ;) :D

Good to see the naysayers in the in game thread eating their words!

Go Blues, club spirit has returned!

Sam Rowe, best bugger all possession game of all time!

He and Gibbs basically turned it around after 1/4 time. I now finally understand how Robert Klomp won a tv in the 80's with the magnificent stats of 0 kicks, 0 marks, 0 handballs!

if this is the start of the journey, im getting a boner thinking about the middle of it!
Gibbs makes me angry and proud at the same time. Today shows what he is capable of. Tomorrow he needs to do it again, and again
Docherty - say no more - peter dean incarnate

Magnificent!  That's a big big win.

Enjoying a beer in the social club  :)

Might hang around to see the players; they deserve much respect for four quarters under duress.

I knew we had it won when I saw Casboult in defence.  He was about to smash a pack but pulled up when he realised Docherty had the sit.

Listening to some of the Geelong radio stations streaming online, ROTFLPMLMAO.

All about how pissweak Cats defense was, Hendo the Spud!

He's their problem now! :D

They are complaining the Geelong list has no depth.
Smedts, Smith, not up to it.
Caddy over-rated
Scott has lost the team.

ROTFL.:D

Simon White's last quarter was 'Kouta like in '99'! Ok, I'm going over the top, but it was bloody good!!!

Sam Rowe take a bow.

I've questioned Gibbs and queried his parentage but today shows why he such a frustrating player, but damn he was good today, better than Dangerfield and Selwood and that says something .His actions today showed that he can be a truly elite player and leader.

Listening to some of the Geelong radio stations streaming online, ROTFLPMLMAO.

All about how pissweak Cats defense was, Hendo the Spud!

He's their problem now! :D

wonder if his mum called?

Quite stunning to see the turnaround in our tackling skills. Opposition used to treat us like we were a traditional Japanese house with paper walls. Not any more.

Whoever has coached that component of our game (and I'm gonna assume it was at Brendon's behest) deserves 3 votes. Bl00dy brillant to see.

Quite stunning to see the turnaround in our tackling skills. Opposition used to treat us like we were a traditional Japanese house with paper walls. Not any more.

Whoever has coached that component of our game (and I'm gonna assume it was at Brendon's behest) deserves 3 votes. Bl00dy brillant to see.

Correct, our tackling is uncompromising.

No better site than seeing the club you follow cracking in all game for their mates and their supporters

I wish I could figure out how to share the picture of Gibbs spewing after the siren.

Great to see 'mummy's boy Henderson one on one with Walker.  The team loved it too because they knew that in a foot race A1 had him every time.

I don't know whether milestone games can extract more effort, but I reckon a 'stick it up Hendo'might squeeze an extra drop. And make no mistake, they were into him all the time. Relentless.

Goes to show just how horrific the decision to let Mick Malthouse get his hands on this club was imo.

Players like Gibbs are reinvigorated and playing like they are in the top few mids in the competition, yet everyone wanted them gone. Kreuzer breaks the record for tackles by any Carlton player in a game vs Geelong.. KREUZER!!!

In the last quarter it still would not have bothered me if Cats had overrun us (well it would have, but I still would have been stoked with the effort by this group to that stage), but instead we were still the better team in the last as well.

Bolton is already shoe-in for Coach of the Year imo, with no disrespect to Roos, Scott, Scott or anyone else.
He turned one of the least competitive units in the competition into a real football team again, 2 years earlier than ANYONE could have imagined.

Never had any issue with Bolton and am more than happy to have him around.

However, Gibbs' start to the year was the exact same thing he was dishing up last year. People were calling for his head earlier this season.

Also the turnover of players from last year to this year was almost unheard of. SOS gets 20 gold stars for what he pulled off at the trade table swapping Menzel for 5 contributors! Picking up others for nothing. Sending selfish players elsewhere and turning them into 1st round picks.

You congratulate Kreuzer, rightly so. How many games did he play under Mick last year? None. The year before? 1.

He is essentially a new recruit...add him to the other 15 we got and you can see why this team is performing better. Our worst loss this year was of course when he wasn't in the side.

The turnaround can not be put down to a mere coaching change, but a playing list change.

Great win by the boys today. Fantastic win.

I wish I could figure out how to share the picture of Gibbs spewing after the siren.

Why was he spewing? We won. Oh, wait ...  ;D

Murphy had barely a touch: I assume he was injured. That makes this result stand out even more! Not to mention that 2 cripples had to play!

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Greaat win! Loved every bit of it, especially happy or Hendo.

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The turnaround can not be put down to a mere coaching change, but a playing list change.
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There weren't any MM coached games where we played like that, for 1 week, let alone several. 90% change of coach, 10% change of players.

He and Gibbs basically turned it around after 1/4 time. I now finally understand how Robert Klomp won a tv in the 80's with the magnificent stats of 0 kicks, 0 marks, 0 handballs!

The biggest accolade for Sam Rowe is keeping the ball off the big power forwards, tomahawk in particular :P
I don't think he got a goal until after the battle was won.
If spoils against the "elite forwards - flag faves" were stats, Rowe would clean up.
Might not get marking stats, but had the other defenders on had to take advantage.
Well done big fella.

Docherty - say no more - peter dean incarnate

Its Doullerty isnt it?

Reports Motlop hit Tuohy in the nuts straight in front of the umpire, but not even a free kick?

The turnaround can not be put down to a mere coaching change, but a playing list change.

We wasted the best part of a decade between Ratten and Malthouse but there's no point crying over spilt milk, the change in attitude at the club is palpable and much of the credit must go to the senior coach.

Great win by the boys today. Fantastic win.

I thought that the Port win a few weeks back was the best I'd seen for years but this one tops it.
Relentless pressure, tackling, chasing, discipline, all the hallmarks of a deeply committed team, it really had the lot.

CARLTON          4.0   10.4   13.6   16.8 (104)                
GEELONG          3.6   6.8   9.11   12.13 (85) 

GOALS
Carlton: Everitt 4, Armfield 3, Gibbs 2, Gorringe 2, Murphy, Curnow, Casboult, Walker, Lamb
Geelong: Motlop 2, Gregson 2, Guthrie 2, Enright, Stanley, Bartel, Smedts, Smith, Hawkins

BEST
Carlton: Gibbs, Docherty, Armfield, Curnow, Rowe, Cripps, Simpson
Geelong: Guthrie, Dangerfield, Duncan, Bartel, Stanley, Henderson

INJURIES
Carlton: Murphy (ankle), Sumner (ankle), Weitering (knee), Armfield (leg)
Geelong: Stanley (foot)

Considering that we won the game without any contribution from Murphy or Sumner, we had 2 other injuries later, we had 2 guys who were dead a week ago and we missed Byrne out this morning, this is a performance to remember.

Great to see 'mummy's boy Henderson one on one with Walker.  The team loved it too because they knew that in a foot race A1 had him every time.

I don't know whether milestone games can extract more effort, but I reckon a 'stick it up Hendo'might squeeze an extra drop. And make no mistake, they were into him all the time. Relentless.

At least we can give Waite that, he finished the 2014 season with Carlton giving his best and did well kicking a number of goals, unlike Henderson and Yarran, who simply gave up on the club didn't try. In Henderson case deserves any boos he gets from our supporters for that reason alone. Today was a just a little bit of karma for him. Taking a line from the classics...."go suck a big fat one Hendo".

Simon White's last quarter was 'Kouta like in '99'! Ok, I'm going over the top, but it was bloody good!!!

Make no mistake, White was very good all day. Simpson and Army were enormous, Doc was sublime, Gibbs was BOG, was tough (yes tough) and classy today.

wonder if his mum called?

Post of the year thus far. 3 Votes.

We wasted the best part of a decade between Ratten and Malthouse but there's no point crying over spilt milk, the change in attitude at the club is palpable and much of the credit must go to the senior coach.

I thought that the Port win a few weeks back was the best I'd seen for years but this one tops it.
Relentless pressure, tackling, chasing, discipline, all the hallmarks of a deeply committed team, it really had the lot.

Wins over Collingwood and Port were good, strong solid wins against decent enough sides at least. We got our game together, used the ball well, handballs weren't finding grass as they did the previous two scratchy wins, and both those side's form after playing us validates that.

Sometimes you never underestimate the effect of "scratchy" wins, the like we had against Freo and Essendon. They build more belief and confidence than most honourable losses

There weren't any MM coached games where we played like that, for 1 week, let alone several. 90% change of coach, 10% change of players.

x2

How about the courage of Thomas, Simpson and Casboult today? They put it all on the line. Kreuzer, Cripps, Lamb, Gibbs, Docherty, Armfield, Everett and White full marks today.

Crowd was absolutely feral today and I loved every minute!

There weren't any MM coached games where we played like that, for 1 week, let alone several. 90% change of coach, 10% change of players.

Comments like that attempt to rewrite history. I can write a long list, but i don't want to derail the thread. I'll just cite 2 games against Geelong in 2014 where we were robbed, and remind you of our finals win against the tigers despite being severe underdogs.

Reports Motlop hit Tuohy in the nuts straight in front of the umpire, but not even a free kick?

He did. Behind play. Ump was 50m away and may not have been directly looking at them and may have been slightly blindsided as well.
MRP can't ignore it though.

Re: White.
I had to look twice to realise this silky smooth player was Simon White..
I'll be buggered, I didn't see that coming. Always thought his effort is solid, but skill... I didn't give him that credit. Happy to be proven wrong - If  Bolts can get this much out of players, we might need to strap in for a fast ride :))
Well done to White, keep it coming

Comments like that attempt to rewrite history. I can write a long list, but i don't want to derail the thread. I'll just cite 2 games against Geelong in 2014 where we were robbed, and remind you of our finals win against the tigers despite being severe underdogs.

Tigers - pfft. Couldn't win a final if their lives depended on it. There was never a feeling of sustained progress and optimism under Mick.

gibbs contract must be up at the end of the year?

gibbs contract must be up at the end of the year?

Give the guy a break was sensational in 2014 when he won our B&F and injured all of 2015 tearing a pec muscle. Don't understand why he gets so much flak...he has been on an upward curve since 2013

..and no he has another three years to run on his contract he signed in 2014

He did. Behind play. Ump was 50m away and may not have been directly looking at them and may have been slightly blindsided as well.
MRP can't ignore it though.

Hope he gets a big penalty. Just watched replay - disgusting deliberate dog act >:(

Dennis Bloody Armfield....you bewdy !  3 class goals on the burst.  Not bad for a fringe player

I'm so looking forward to the replay.

Well done on all levels.  I'd written this one off, I'm not afraid to admit it.

cheers

Mal

gibbs contract must be up at the end of the year?

Cynical. Go hide under a rock

Was at the ground and while only 33,000 attended the Blues supporters in particular cheered like there was 80,000.

Not going to mention every player but a shout out to Gorringe who did a number of very good things around the ball and kicked 2 goals.  Also, Everitt.  I know he vanishes at times but seriously he's too good a player, for all his faults, to drop him.

And as for Army and White... never seen either play games that good.

It was an incredible and wonderful and soul stirring win.  Go BLUES.

(The umpiring was awful all game).

Cynical. Go hide under a rock

are you being racist?

Not going to mention every player but a shout out to Gorringe who did a number of very good things around the ball and kicked 2 goals.

Gorringe 7 kicks 7 handballs  14 disposals....2 goals

Not outstanding but he gave off a couple of nice hand-passes to advantage today.
Seems to be pretty well regarded by the group as well

Hopefully he keeps improving but just not sure what his position would be...will find it difficult to keep his place when our young forwards start coming in

I was most impressed to see a whole team effort under considerable duress of injuries.
To see the likes of Army, White, Rowe, and Gorringe really shine was a credit to the club. Our little slip ups were well disguised by players gut running to recover and win the next contest..... I am amazed this is happening so 'early in the journey'

gibbs contract must be up at the end of the year?

 :o

I think that must win the prize for the all time most ignorant post game comment.

The love for Gibbs in the social club was amazing.  Apart from the odd ignoramous, Carlton folk realise how important Gibbs is to the side.  I believe he was chucking up his guts after the game.  I suspect those who bag him have only ever chucked after a skinful.

Our self belief was just shining through in a magnificent win against a very good football side, ahem!

Take a bow boys and take a bow BB! Two men down early and we stuck to our task to the very end. Our culture is in good shape without doubt.

:o

I think that must win the prize for the all time most ignorant post game comment.

The love for Gibbs in the social club was amazing.  Apart from the odd ignoramous, Carlton folk realise how important Gibbs is to the side.  I believe he was chucking up his guts after the game.  I suspect those who bag him have only ever chucked after a skinful.

Gibbs today was everything we ever hoped he would be. Huge effort and all class.

Didn't think we could top the Port win, but there ya go!!!

It was the Port win all over again x 2.

How were the games from the unsung players who can be regular whipping boys: players such as Armfield, White, Rowe, Everitt.....colossal games from each & every one of them. Simon White's 2nd half, particularly that last quarter, was as good a quarter as I've seen from any Carlton defender for a very, very long time.

The tackles, the smothers, the chasing, the pressure......unbelievably relentless. How was Kreuzer's 50m chase in the 2nd quarter.....I almost reckon that was the turning point.

Casboult's mere presence had the Cats tall defenders literally krapping themselves......concerned that they could possibly die at any given moment, Levi was crashing packs that hard.

Curnow's job on Selwood......attacking tagging at it's best right there. Bryce Gibbs......wow.

Absolutely bursting with pride right now......upset of the season so far they're calling it.....and I can comfortably live with that.

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I think that must win the prize for the all time most ignorant post game comment.

The love for Gibbs in the social club was amazing.  Apart from the odd ignoramous, Carlton folk realise how important Gibbs is to the side.  I believe he was chucking up his guts after the game.  I suspect those who bag him have only ever chucked after a skinful.

Gibbs today was all we ever hoped he would be! A huge effort and all class.

Didn't think we could top the Port win, but there ya go!!!

It was the Port win all over again x 2.

How were the games from the unsung players who can be regular whipping boys: players such as Armfield, White, Rowe, Everitt.....colossal games from each & every one of them. Simon White's 2nd half, particularly that last quarter, was as good a quarter as I've seen from any Carlton defender for a very, very long time.

The tackles, the smothers, the chasing, the pressure......unbelievably relentless. How was Kreuzer's 50m chase in the 2nd quarter.....I almost reckon that was the turning point.

Casboult's mere presence had the Cats tall defenders literally krapping themselves......concerned that they could possibly die at any given moment, Levi was crashing packs that hard.

Curnow's job on Selwood......attacking tagging at it's best right there. Bryce Gibbs......wow.

Absolutely bursting with pride right now......upset of the season so far they're calling it.....and I can comfortably live with that.

There's a happy Brettie.... been a while I reckon.

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I think that must win the prize for the all time most ignorant post game comment.

The love for Gibbs in the social club was amazing.  Apart from the odd ignoramous, Carlton folk realise how important Gibbs is to the side.  I believe he was chucking up his guts after the game.  I suspect those who bag him have only ever chucked after a skinful.

fkrs have no sense of humor. If you read my previous comment, you'd be better for it

It was interesting listening to Johnny Barker and some of the players after the game.  Some of the key comments were; effort, structures, clarity, haven't exceeded expectations, team.

Ed Curnow is mates with Hendo and he said that the blokes playing forward got in to him.  Ed didn't have much to say other than "we didn't miss him!"

The other strong message was about repairing the disconnect between club and supporters that had happened over the last 3 years.  It was good to see the Pres and CEO mingling with supporters.

Didn't think we could top the Port win, but there ya go!!!

It was the Port win all over again x 2.

How were the games from the unsung players who can be regular whipping boys: players such as Armfield, White, Rowe, Everitt.....colossal games from each & every one of them. Simon White's 2nd half, particularly that last quarter, was as good a quarter as I've seen from any Carlton defender for a very, very long time.

The tackles, the smothers, the chasing, the pressure......unbelievably relentless. How was Kreuzer's 50m chase in the 2nd quarter.....I almost reckon that was the turning point.

Casboult's mere presence had the Cats tall defenders literally krapping themselves......concerned that they could possibly die at any given moment, Levi was crashing packs that hard.

Curnow's job on Selwood......attacking tagging at it's best right there. Bryce Gibbs......wow.

Absolutely bursting with pride right now......upset of the season so far they're calling it.....and I can comfortably live with that.

Excellent post Brettie.
Agreed.

Watch out for the new Blues...

E. Curnow is quickly becoming our most underrated player, he's done numbers on some of the comps best midfielders, and does it regularly now.

White, a rock under pressure, calm considered ball use, no mindless bombing the ball or panicked disposal.

Lots to love today, too many to mention, CarlTon has it's "T" back, Team!

PS: How ungracious is Scott, not about Carlton or Collingwood, all about them! Team defeat them 16-8 and the best he can say is "Those clubs were struggling to score" in previous weeks.

Another weekend where I cannot see or hear anything of the match and  .............  we win !!

Obviously I am going to have to keep up this tradition even if it kills me.

What the hell is in the water down there at Princes Park ?? Players are recovering from serious injury in a quarter of the time expected and non-performers are now performing.

I've said it once but I'll say it again ............ "just imagine what this Bolton chap is going to do when he gets a playing list of serious depth & talent" ??

If he can get his team to knock over a potential flag contender after only 10-games, then we could be looking at one of the biggest dynasties ever seen in this competition.    

literally krapping themselves......

Cmon Brettie, you're better than that.

Been a while since my last post.

Best and most consistent effort from a Carlton side in what seems like forever. Four-quarters of determination, toughness, mongrel and class!   Two players down in the 1st quarter but still showed them up.

Yes we had good wins over the wobbles and that Port win was epic, but this was a whole other level. I'll finish with a question: When was the last time we beat a genuine top-4 team??

PS: How ungracious is Scott, not about Carlton or Collingwood, all about them! Team defeat them 16-8 and the best he can say is "Those clubs were struggling to score" in previous weeks.

What do you expect from the Pirhana twins?

Gorringe 7 kicks 7 handballs  14 disposals....2 goals

Not outstanding but he gave off a couple of nice hand-passes to advantage today.
Seems to be pretty well regarded by the group as well

Hopefully he keeps improving but just not sure what his position would be...will find it difficult to keep his place when our young forwards start coming in

I'm on the Gorringe bandwagon too.......another player to embrace the Bolton game plan.....what he does have is a good skillset, he kicks the ball well, has decent hands when he gives of a handpass and is mobile. Not a true ruckman and not a KP player but something inbetween that allows Mk to ruck most of the day and allows Casboult to play FF and take another tall off his tail.
Andrew Philips is the better ruckman but probably doesnt add the variety that Gorringe does...just shows reserves form means nothing...Gorringe was a fair performer only in the NB's and only got a game due to injuries but has shown way more in the seniors...

It was a day for the lesser players IMO...Simon White was a star IMO....Rowe dominated Hawkins....Armfield was slotting goals....when your bottom group of players are big contributors you are competitive and Bolton has everyone doing something.....you then add players like Gibbs taking his game to a new level and it = win..

Sheik, don't go near a radio, TV, mobile, tablet or computer on game day for the rest of the season... there's a good chap ;)

fkrs have no sense of humor. If you read my previous comment, you'd be better for it

I did read your previous post and I'm not better for it.  In fact, I'm sorry that I allowed it to take some of the gloss off the win.  It's a little like the bloke who was calling for Casboult to be dragged today; just minor annoyances during a most enjoyable game and post game celebration :)

@ Zed
I wish I could answer your question, but my memory is just not good for that stuff. Give it a couple of minutes and someone will post it.

Welcome back, enjoy the new blues.

Can't add too much more, played a much more fancied opponent off the park. Sensational 4 qtr team effort.

There's a happy Brettie.... been a while I reckon.

Surprised that avatar hasn't changed it's...well....structure...lol!!!

Dennis Bloody Armfield....you bewdy !  3 class goals on the burst.  Not bad for a fringe player

I'm so looking forward to the replay.

Well done on all levels.  I'd written this one off, I'm not afraid to admit it.

cheers

Mal

Youre not alone Mal. I did the extra write off because I was actually attending. It was the first win I have attended in a very very long time. And I loved it.

I haven't experienced this raw 'Carlton-ness' in a Carlton crowd for so many years......we're barracking with a ferocity that is simply awesome to be apart of & everyone is buying-in. The Carlton crowd hasn't been this engaged for so long & I reckon the players themselves are loving every minute of it. A lot of people are doing a lot of things right at the Club right now......we're now very much a part of this competition in every respect, not lagging behind with outdated methodologies & an arrogance in avoiding change.....it's great to be back & barrack for a Club that can be respected again.

I haven't experienced this raw 'Carlton-ness' in a Carlton crowd for so many years......we're barracking with a ferocity that is simply awesome to be apart of & everyone is buying-in. The Carlton crowd hasn't been this engaged for so long & I reckon the players themselves are loving every minute of it. A lot of people are doing a lot of things right at the Club right now......we're now very much a part of this competition in every respect, not lagging behind with outdated methodologies & an arrogance in avoiding change.....it's great to be back & barrack for a Club that can be respected again.

X2 !

We are getting back to being a feared team.  :)

At quarter time I sensed an honourable loss. Was interesting to see Geelong's poise and structure down back. Their players seemed to know exactly where to position themselves whenever we had the ball - it was almost robotic the way they dropped back to fill the holes. Each player ran to a designated spot with Bartel taking up the last line of defence.  All very disciplined and practised. Which is why this was such an impressive victory.

We picked them apart with patience and precision, and every so often blitzed them with sheer gut running to catch them out on the rebound.  Awesome, awesome victory.

Apparently Kroooz is the Spirit Of Carlton

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-29/kreuzer-is-the-spirit-of-carlton-says-brendon-bolton

Another weekend where I cannot see or hear anything of the match and  .............  we win !!

Obviously I am going to have to keep up this tradition even if it kills me.

What the hell is in the water down there at Princes Park ?? Players are recovering from serious injury in a quarter of the time expected and non-performers are now performing.

I've said it once but I'll say it again ............ "just imagine what this Bolton chap is going to do when he gets a playing list of serious depth & talent" ??

If he can get his team to knock over a potential flag contender after only 10-games, then we could be looking at one of the biggest dynasties ever seen in this competition.  

Supplements  ;D  ;D

Team got a great reception at 1/2 and 3/4 time... I think those that are attending (and I thought it was a poor crowd) are loving the effort.

I haven't experienced this raw 'Carlton-ness' in a Carlton crowd for so many years......we're barracking with a ferocity that is simply awesome to be apart of & everyone is buying-in. The Carlton crowd hasn't been this engaged for so long & I reckon the players themselves are loving every minute of it. A lot of people are doing a lot of things right at the Club right now......we're now very much a part of this competition in every respect, not lagging behind with outdated methodologies & an arrogance in avoiding change.....it's great to be back & barrack for a Club that can be respected again.

The secret to success
It's really not rocket science ;)

For the first time since the salary cap debacle the club is united and supportive.
Everyone seems on the same page and the white ants appear to have been exterminated.

As they say: Cats one day, dim sims the next.

Just back from the game. I haven't seen a more committed forward line or a more composed back line from the Blues in many years. The difference between this team and last years is nothing short of amazing.
Go Blues

Simon Whites last quarter... Wow! I've been a fan but we will be better when he moves on... But his last quarter was so amazing. Take a bow mate...

Gibbs running up to him both spent shows the spirit in this side.

Bolton is a genius.

Very proud such a great win

Everitt and Walker......the former was excellent today and continues to frustrate me, took some good marks, contested in the proper manner and looked like playing for Carlton meant something. His straight kicking helped us win the game and as we all know he has great ability..I was very down on him after last weeks game and would have happily dropped him for good but then he comes out and plays like an AA....love to know what Bolton said to him...

Walker moved well and while not has high impact as Everitt contested, chased and played like the old AW at times and I give the man credit for proving me wrong as I had him done and dusted after last week...

Never had any issue with Bolton and am more than happy to have him around.

However, Gibbs' start to the year was the exact same thing he was dishing up last year. People were calling for his head earlier this season.

Also the turnover of players from last year to this year was almost unheard of. SOS gets 20 gold stars for what he pulled off at the trade table swapping Menzel for 5 contributors! Picking up others for nothing. Sending selfish players elsewhere and turning them into 1st round picks.

You congratulate Kreuzer, rightly so. How many games did he play under Mick last year? None. The year before? 1.

He is essentially a new recruit...add him to the other 15 we got and you can see why this team is performing better. Our worst loss this year was of course when he wasn't in the side.

The turnaround can not be put down to a mere coaching change, but a playing list change.

Great win by the boys today. Fantastic win.

Not sure the purpose of this post Krud, honestly my comment on Malthouse wasn't specific to Kreuzer, Gibbs or anyone in particular. The post on Malthouse was on the intensity of playing football as a club, which they are absolutely doing under Bolton and absolutely were not under MM.
I never seen Carlton try less (even in our post Salary Cap breach years) then I did under MM.

I am simply happy to see Carlton trying and giving it all and Bolton is absolutely responsible for that.

Not sure the purpose of this post Krud, honestly my comment on Malthouse wasn't specific to Kreuzer, Gibbs or anyone in particular. The post on Malthouse was on the intensity of playing football as a club, which they are absolutely doing under Bolton and absolutely were not under MM.
I never seen Carlton try less (even in our post Salary Cap breach years) then I did under MM.

I am simply happy to see Carlton trying and giving it all and Bolton is absolutely responsible for that.

Indeed.

Mick's best season was straight after he took over from Ratts - as his tenure progressed, and he got more opportunities to implement his practices, procedures, list changes etc., the results got worse and worse.

At the end of 2012, there was no other club besides us that was seriously interested in his services. Once he was sacked by us, there was once again no other club interested.

We could set up a hypothetical scenario - a club looking for a senior coach, and the only 3 possible candidates are Bolts, Ratts ad Mick. IMO, Bolts would be shoe in, followed by Ratts. Mick might be lucky to receive a phone call.

You can dis my opinions as much as you like - in fact, my opinions are probably worth a dis or two. But the rest of the AFL world has spoken, and they're saying something you don't want to miss.

Everitt and Walker......the former was excellent today and continues to frustrate me, took some good marks, contested in the proper manner and looked like playing for Carlton meant something. His straight kicking helped us win the game and as we all know he has great ability..I was very down on him after last weeks game and would have happily dropped him for good but then he comes out and plays like an AA....love to know what Bolton said to him...

Walker moved well and while not has high impact as Everitt contested, chased and played like the old AW at times and I give the man credit for proving me wrong as I had him done and dusted after last week...

Walker missed 6 weeks and needed to regain fitness. He was alright in round 1. Everitt will always frustrate alot but will also kick multiple goals most weeks too. Sometimes one has to just suffer frustrations.

Everitt and Walker......the former was excellent today and continues to frustrate me, took some good marks, contested in the proper manner and looked like playing for Carlton meant something. His straight kicking helped us win the game and as we all know he has great ability..I was very down on him after last weeks game and would have happily dropped him for good but then he comes out and plays like an AA....love to know what Bolton said to him...

Walker moved well and while not has high impact as Everitt contested, chased and played like the old AW at times and I give the man credit for proving me wrong as I had him done and dusted after last week...

While Everitt delivered on the scoreboard for me this has to become a normal event, then I can be more relaxed about his work rate and efforts. For me even though he did very well today, you still get the feeling there are times he is cruising. I think on a day like today he could have kicked 6 or perhaps even more importantly created several more.

Not sure what else to add but like everyone else just completely stoked. We are just having these little moments of greatness as well from individuals which is great to see.

Casboult against the pies, Kreuzer against Port and today Cripps one on one againt Dangerfield that set up Everitt for another, after they kicked a couple and most likely another if Cripps doesn't out mark him.

Shout out to Docherty again, Curnow who is flying under the radar but doing his job and racking up possies also and finally Rowe.

Now 1 win out of the 8, and 11th on %.

How did weeters go today?  Who did he stand?  I see he picked up another (potentially serious) injury today?

How did weeters go today?  Who did he stand?  I see he picked up another (potentially serious) injury today?

He finished the game OK, seemed to get better as it progressed, so I hope it's nothing more than a corky or bruise.

He's in the background of one of the post match videos, walking freely, even jogging around, no ice, no bandages.

This current game plan has some real upside, we are making teams that normally rip us apart by foot struggle to find time and space.

It's been almost two decades since I have seen a Carlton forward line exert so much pressure on the defense.

If you have committed forwards it shows the presence of a superstar KPF is not critical to victory. Part of Rowe's success today was the pressure we exerted on the ball carriers, so much better than any recent efforts I can recall.

we're not gonna win the flag... we're not gonna play finals.... BUT... We're back... the future is ours :D

Gutsy Win - CARNA BLUE BAGGERS!!

How did weeters go today?  Who did he stand?  I see he picked up another (potentially serious) injury today?

Made the his first mistake of the year, poor kick out of defence from memory. Needs to be dropped for it ;D ;D

Upset i didn't see this great win but heard parts whilst driving across the Hay Plains.
Fantastic win all i heard on the radio was Gibbs and Doullherty.
Mr Bolton, take a bow son and ask for a pay rise.

While Everitt delivered on the scoreboard for me this has to become a normal event, then I can be more relaxed about his work rate and efforts. For me even though he did very well today, you still get the feeling there are times he is cruising. I think on a day like today he could have kicked 6 or perhaps even more importantly created several more.

We need to accept that Everitt isn't a top class footballer so he won't perform at his peak week in and week out, only the guns can do that.
He contributes on a regular basis though, and when he's up and about we are a better team.

We need to accept that Everitt isn't a top class footballer so he won't perform at his peak week in and week out, only the guns can do that.
He contributes on a regular basis though, and when he's up and about we are a better team.

Another who was very good today, again seeing him live, I reckon he worked very hard today. His goal kicking is the best out our club without doubt. Imagine if Cas was as good a kick, he'd be earning a $1M year.

We need to accept that Everitt isn't a top class footballer so he won't perform at his peak week in and week out, only the guns can do that.
He contributes on a regular basis though, and when he's up and about we are a better team.

Even got a couple of important touches in the backline at important times. Was very good today

It's days like today when I regret not having foxtel.
Couldn't get to the game or the pub.
All I have now are the reports from all on this site.
Please keep them coming.
Go Baggers!!

It's days like today when I regret not having foxtel.
Couldn't get to the game or the pub.
All I have now are the reports from all on this site.
Please keep them coming.
Go Baggers!!

$89.99 for AFL live, better than nothing, hook into it.

It's days like today when I regret not having foxtel.
Couldn't get to the game or the pub.
All I have now are the reports from all on this site.
Please keep them coming.
Go Baggers!!

$89.99 for AFL live, better than nothing, hook into it.

If you have a Telstra mobile Rocky the AFL Live Pass is free to watch on the phone, you just have to sign up.

If you have a Telstra mobile Rocky the AFL Live Pass is free to watch on the phone, you just have to sign up.

If your not with Telstra, have a look at the club's digital live pass.
I think I paid $60 or so for every 2016 game, need to have the data to download though.

It's days like today when I regret not having foxtel.

There are ways and means.  ;)

How did weeters go today?  Who did he stand?  I see he picked up another (potentially serious) injury today?

Made the his first mistake of the year, poor kick out of defence from memory. Needs to be dropped for it ;D ;D

Also dropped a soda he should have gobbled, but he followed up later in the same passage of play to effect a great spoil and win the ball back. As Gointocarlton alluded - could already be a victim of his own success that we have such high expectations.  Also, looked to me like his shoulder bothered him a little.

Hope he gets a big penalty. Just watched replay - disgusting deliberate dog act >:(

The telecast clearly showed the umpire looking directly at the incident.

Also dropped a soda he should have gobbled, but he followed up later in the same passage of play to effect a great spoil and win the ball back. As Gointocarlton alluded - could already be a victim of his own success that we have such high expectations.  Also, looked to me like his shoulder bothered him a little.

The kids not going to be perfect in his first few years, AFL footy has the habit of getting inside someones head. But despite some errors, he generally mopped them up OK and actually rescued team-mates from a few clangers today as well.

Plus on the shoulder, you just know a Scott coached team is going to target stuff like that mercilessly. Weitering will deal with it, it's not the first time in his football career teams have targeted him, just probably hurts a bit more at this level.

That game was about as good as it gets.

Walker and Armfield were just ON today. Right from the start they kept tearing the cats apart.

To say that was Gibbs best game for the club is the understatement to end all. He was awesome. Took Murph going down as a personal challenge and he killed them.

White likewise played his best ever game for Carlton. One bit of play on the wing would have done Judd justice. Broke 2 tackles, baulk a third and thread a short pass to a teammate under pressure. Awesome game.

Kreuzer back to his best.

Can't list the whole team one by one but that was just a great team effort.

Haven't said this so far this year but I now think we're half a sneaky chance of top 8. The match against Adelaide here in a few weeks could be a mini final.

The telecast clearly showed the umpire looking directly at the incident.

How's Scott playing dumb in the Post Match. By the time the coaches hit the interview room it was the top video on the AFL website, the club staff would have warned him about it. You can sort of tell from Scott's body language he knew exactly what the journos were asking him about.

But anyway who cares about that, the question is why that umpire didn't pay a free kick, I hope our club raises the issue with someone.

Was at the game which was Awesome - always had in the back of
My mind that Geelong would come back so kept A lid on it and was really surprised when we were well in front with only 5 mins to go - couldn't believe it to be honest.

Gibbs was everywhere, thought Simmo did really well in bursts, Cripps was amongst so many things - Kruezer is just a machine love him, Rowe was unreal, Felt really comfortable when Everitt was going for goal he's usually so accurate.

Loved the pressure chase and consistent effort. Few fumbles, particularly Lamb and Walks kicking directly to a Cats player in our F50 which was wasteful, but kept our composure and went again and again and again.

How Could I forget Army?! What a game - usually just sometimes misses those goals that he runs into but nailed all of them  8)

We messed up drafting Hampson at 18, but trading him out for Docherty was genius

We messed up drafting Hampson at 18, but trading him out for Docherty was genius

There are good trades and then there is outright highway robbery - Doc was the latter.

We messed up drafting Hampson at 18, but trading him out for Docherty was genius

A stroke of genius from Malthouse?
I agree by the way, the best trade in the history of the CFC if not the entire AFL.

He finished the game OK, seemed to get better as it progressed, so I hope it's nothing more than a corky or bruise.

He's in the background of one of the post match videos, walking freely, even jogging around, no ice, no bandages.

I am worried about the lad.  He ducked his head a couple of times today.  Perhaps when he builds up more this part of his game will fade, let's hope so.

Was at the game which was Awesome - always had in the back of
My mind that Geelong would come back so kept A lid on it and was really surprised when we were well in front with only 5 mins to go - couldn't believe it to be honest.

I turned to my mate at that same point and said "this mob can kick goals in succession real quick", a Geelong supporter in front of me said "have some faith mate" to which I replied "mate I have been battered and bruised too much to have faith". He was right though, what a sweet sweet victory.
Have Some Faith.

It's days like today when I regret not having foxtel.
Couldn't get to the game or the pub.
All I have now are the reports from all on this site.
Please keep them coming.
Go Baggers!!

You missed Special K chasing the speedster Guthrie, breathing down his neck for all of 30 metres never giving up and eventually distracting him so much Guthrie's kick was smothered. Crucial play.

Also, Thomas' anticipation in the 3rd q., knocking the ball to his advantage then following up and handballing over the top to Gorringe. Gold!

Plus, heaps of other goodly stuff  :)

Another who was very good today, again seeing him live, I reckon he worked very hard today. His goal kicking is the best out our club without doubt. Imagine if Cas was as good a kick, he'd be earning a $1M year.

f/n. the guy was truly exceptional today. no ifs or whatever. The guy oozes talent......

Was at the game which was Awesome - always had in the back of
My mind that Geelong would come back so kept A lid on it and was really surprised when we were well in front with only 5 mins to go - couldn't believe it to be honest.

Gibbs was everywhere, thought Simmo did really well in bursts, Cripps was amongst so many things - Kruezer is just a machine love him, Rowe was unreal, Felt really comfortable when Everitt was going for goal he's usually so accurate.

Loved the pressure chase and consistent effort. Few fumbles, particularly Lamb and Walks kicking directly to a Cats player in our F50 which was wasteful, but kept our composure and went again and again and again.

What was the atmosphere like.

Sounded like the joint was rockin'!!

What was the atmosphere like.

Sounded like the joint was rockin'!!

Geelong crowd was taken out of it by us being in front most of the day, Bluebagger fans were up and about to say the least.

Plenty of special moments - from all the blokes,

It's the fringe guys holding up their patch that wins these games - ARMY and Whitey spring to mind.

I'm a Gibbs detractor but boy he stood tall today, very tall,

What was the atmosphere like.

Sounded like the joint was rockin'!!

The game didn't go as close to the wire as the Port game so I guess there was more of an air of expecting to win by the time we got into the last 10 mins. Nevertheless, there was certainly plenty of electricity in the air again and the crowd really got very vocal urging on the boys! Again, like a good old time Blueboy win. The Cats supporters were just stunned - as mullets in fact.  ;D

He did. Behind play. Ump was 50m away and may not have been directly looking at them and may have been slightly blindsided as well.
MRP can't ignore it though.

Was caught on the TV and shown. A Lot. Tuohy is a pretty tough hombre, but hitting him in the goolies will get Motlop a decent holiday, if the MRP has any relevance at all. It was also pretty clear that the umpire saw it. I wonder what he was thinking. I wonder IF he was thinking.

Sounded great on the telly in the second and third quarter.

Comments like that attempt to rewrite history. I can write a long list, but i don't want to derail the thread. I'll just cite 2 games against Geelong in 2014 where we were robbed, and remind you of our finals win against the tigers despite being severe underdogs.

Alas, you are correct. We had a couple of very good games, and that finals win against Richmond was a classic. However, we did lack the consistency of effort, even in games. Nor did we have the evenness of output we are showing at the moment. Like the Suns at the moment, we were playing 1 on 1 football when other teams were team defence and team attack orientated. Sometimes we could make it work, especially if Judd had a good one.

I am happier at the moment with what we are producing, but there are still structural issues and depth issues. With us getting a number of injuries again, the question we have for next week is simple: can we cover them? The answer, on the other hand, is not so clear.

Plenty of special moments - from all the blokes,

It's the fringe guys holding up their patch that wins these games - ARMY and Whitey spring to mind.

I'm a Gibbs detractor but boy he stood tall today, very tall,

It was a good win today and there wasn't a Judd solo mission carrying the squad. Enough contributions across the entire playing group to appear as a really footy team for once.  ;)

Was caught on the TV and shown. A Lot. Tuohy is a pretty tough hombre, but hitting him in the goolies will get Motlop a decent holiday, if the MRP has any relevance at all. It was also pretty clear that the umpire saw it. I wonder what he was thinking. I wonder IF he was thinking.

Geelong are on the nose, and the media can smell it, they are in for a world of media pain if they can't reverse this mini slump!

Love how we were relentless all day.  Players must get a lot of confidence from being allowed to make mistakes as long as they follow up and don't drop their  heads.

Early 1AW seemed to give a spray to a bad kick that should have gone to him,  but that seemed to be all.  Several Tuohy skill errors were just followed up with second and third efforts.   This was replicated all day.

Great to watch!

Sheik, don't go near a radio, TV, mobile, tablet or computer on game day for the rest of the season... there's a good chap ;)

I think there will be some people who say that t me too. I missed my 2nd week in the row: one disaster and one brilliant performance. I followed last week as closely as I could, but I didn't even turn the computer on today until 27 minutes into the last quarter. What a shock! Dopamine hit in a HUGE way.

I thought the umpires were ruthless anti CFC first half,,,,,

We messed up drafting Hampson at 18, but trading him out for Docherty was genius

Hampson is in career best form for Richmond: they have got more out of him than we did. However, the question would now be, what could Bolton have got out of him?
That said, the deal that got us Docherty has already proved its value. He looked so so at Brisbane, but he has improved each year he has been with us and is really showing the spirit we wanted. His comments last year about us supporting the boys showed he cared for the club even though we were at our lowest ebb.

I thought the umpires were ruthless anti CFC first half,,,,,

Scott reckoned they gave away too many free kicks, but I wonder how much of that differential was getting pegged with the ball by great Carlton tackling.

I am worried about the lad.  He ducked his head a couple of times today.  Perhaps when he builds up more this part of his game will fade, let's hope so.

Well spotted chalky.....that attempted mark he dropped deep in defence in the 3rd quarter (or may have been 1st quarter.....but it was down the 'Carlton end') whereby he clearly ducked his head & dropped what would've been an uncontested mark.....wasn't the best look. Sorry to be devil's advocate on such a joyous occasion, but it happened & should be mentioned.

Cmon Brettie, you're better than that.

I saw a Geelong trainer bring out a roll of toilet paper to both Taylor and Kolodjashnij at different stages.....just sayin' :D

.....(and I thought it was a poor crowd)

Agree with this......reckon the Club would be disappointed with just 33,500 at this fixture.

To me Weitering didn't look right - he didn't look confident from The get go, which I assume was because he wasn't feeling great or didn't he injure his leg early?

In the social club at the end when some of the boys walked towards the stage he had his head down the entire time whereas the other boys were heads up and stopping for some Fans that got in their way or high fived them. 

He seemed... Run down or I don't know how to put it, just withdrawn I suppose. I think he's injured.

Atmosphere was good but nothing like that Port game - that game was on an electricity scale similar to the Richmons elimination final but with 20k fans rather than 95k!

I thought the umpires were ruthless anti CFC first half,,,,,

I agree and said as much in the in game thread - however the AFL app tells Me we got 22-11 free kicks!!

We seemed to not get a lot that we should've gotten - holding the man, holding the ball, etc

Just watched the AFL app highlights and about 4 times in the first half the commentators are questioning why frees weren't paid for HTB against Geelong - one time a commentator says gee they seem to be getting a lot of leeway here.

Makes the win even more enjoyable!

To me Weitering didn't look right - he didn't look confident from The get go, which I assume was because he wasn't feeling great or didn't he injure his leg early?

In the social club at the end when some of the boys walked towards the stage he had his head down the entire time whereas the other boys were heads up and stopping for some Fans that got in their way or high fived them. 

He seemed... Run down or I don't know how to put it, just withdrawn I suppose. I think he's injured.

He's not big on the socialising stuff, he'd prefer to play the game then go home to the family. He's quite shy off the field, doesn't drink and doesn't like drunks.

More of a Bruce Doull type than a Jimmy Buckley.

I'm betting there were a few pissheads in the social club! ;)

He's not a big socialising stuff, he'd prefer to play the game then go home to the family. He's quite shy off the field, doesn't drink and doesn't like drunks.

Yep Well maybe that was all - must clarify that the fans weren't drunk or obnoxious, they were well behaved... First time I've been in the social club, love how the club has opened that up after games and yea saw the President, Trigg, SOS, McKay, barker, Bolton around - not for long but was nice to give the boys all a very big cheer.

Went to the game, and have the following observations.

Firstly, with 48,000 members, how can it be that we can only get a TOTAL of 33,000 at the game. In fact, the crowd didn't even look that big, and then I remembered  that they count all the medallion club in the attendance figures even if they don't turn up, because the home team get the money for the medallion club member for the game they are playing.

Secondly, Sam Rowe. Not one disposal up to half time, but I have to give him credit for playing about as well as he can, on Hawkins. mind you, Hawkins missed two sodas in the first quarter which he should have kicked. I noted with interest, Bolton's comments about Rowe, saying effectively, that we will see if Rowey can improve as a footballer. That's why I love Bolton. he sees what most of us see.

Thirdly, I have taken the time to read all your comments and unless I am mistaken, no one has pointed out one of the major reasons that we won today. WE KICKED STRAIGHT. They had one more scoring shot than us, but we beat them, because the old adage that bad kicking is bad football, was shown to be true yet again.They missed some very easy set shots, and it killed them. The first quarter says it all. They had 5 more scoring shots than us, two of those were set shots by Hawkins, and kick 6.3 to our 4 straight. Yes, scores were level, but do any of you think with our lack of man power, we could have won if we were still 4 goals straight, but they had kicked 6.3, giving them a 15 point lead at quarter time and a totally different mental attitude to the game? I strongly doubt it. In fact it is the first time that we have kicked over 100 points this year.

Fourthly, the spirit and determination from even blokes who are not the greatest footballers, is something to behold.

This man Bolton, is thus far, proving to be the greatest selection of a coach since we appointed Ron Barrassi in 1965 who then won us our first flag for 23 years, and another after that.

The support from those around me was deafening. I was actually sitting next to two elderly Geelong supporters. The husband said to me, " you know, we have tried to buy another flag. But it isn't going to work. Your mob have got the right idea. Our players are old and getting older by the day, and we don't have any young decent ones coming through".

It hit home how much the club have done the right thing by sacking that dud Malthouse, cleaning out 15 pieces of deadwood, and putting a broom through the place.

From what I have been told, expect up to another 10 to be shown the door at the end of this year.

It won't be easy next week. That ground takes a lot out of teams, particularly if you only have 20 fit players running around, and like the North game, we only have about 6 and a half days to recover.

Brisbane were great against the Hawks and they have beaten us before at Etihad when we were expected to win.

I hope the boys can get up after this win and beat the Lions, then the Saints, and go into the bye 7.5.

This would have been unthinkable at the beginning of this year.

With Charlie Curnow, Mackay who hasn't played a game and Phillips to come back, we look to have a great future ahead with more to come.

GO BLUES!!!!!

A very proud and happy Bluebagger here after todays win !!  :)

Today's game is a great example of why I don't do tipping anymore. I would never have picked the Blues today, but I am oh so glad that we got up!

Gibbs, why are you so frustrating?! In the 2 games I have seen live this year, he has been pretty ordinary I thought, and then he comes out and puts on displays like he did today! I would love to see him win all Australian selection this year, here's hoping!

Kreuzer & Casboult, welcome back boys !!

I kept silent when Rowe was being criticized earlier in the year, I knew he was capable of much better form, and now he is showing it, and our defense is a lot better for it.

Nice to see Gorringe show something, a very solid contributor today.

Really happy for Army to have a good day and kick a few, he played his role well today and reaped the rewards.

4 goals is a good return for Everitt, it's pretty hard to complain about his game when he is doing that!

So many guys stood up today, it's going to be hard to spread the votes around, but a great team effort, keep it up and we will win more than we lose, all things considered.

Go Blues !!

Simon White's last quarter was 'Kouta like in '99'! Ok, I'm going over the top, but it was bloody good!!!

It just shows you what confidence and belief in yourself and your team mates can bring to a player that most say was on the outer.

Terrific second half by White.   8)

White was amazing in the last and he seemed to have some added confidence and just pushed forward - great effort.

Agree with Big Nic on our accurate kicking - I said earlier Army sometimes just misses those running into goals but nailed his three - however I disagree the cats would've walloped us had they kicked straight in the first - still think we were on yday and nothing was going to change that.

Also agree re Lions - would not be at all surprised if we were beaten as we were fierce and must be feeling it today - I hope we can win it though!

White was amazing in the last and he seemed to have some added confidence and just pushed forward - great effort.

There was something a bit different about White's game yesterday.

Hard to pin it down...confidence is probably the word.... but he took the opposition on a couple of times and broke tackles like I've never seen him do before

http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay (http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay)

Just in case you missed it. Last quarter a gem!

by the way, what's the latest on Murphy and Sumner?

Apart from Hawkins, Motlop and Menzel Geelong's front half is pretty average,  and Menzel wasn't there.
I wouldn't get too carried away with Simon White just yet, although he was good yesterday.

Hampson is in career best form for Richmond: they have got more out of him than we did. However, the question would now be, what could Bolton have got out of him?
That said, the deal that got us Docherty has already proved its value. He looked so so at Brisbane, but he has improved each year he has been with us and is really showing the spirit we wanted. His comments last year about us supporting the boys showed he cared for the club even though we were at our lowest ebb.

Docherty will be in the AA squad at the half way mark... he looked a nice player when we got him, but he has gone to an elite level this year. Sensational player. Will go close to being the next captain.

Career best for Hampson isn't that good, but he is doing a job for the Tigers. I'd take Docherty every day of the week, but let's be magnanimous and call it a win-win.

I'd love someone to interview Malthouse this morning to see what his take on our season is.

Goes to show just how horrific the decision to let Mick Malthouse get his hands on this club was imo.

Players like Gibbs are reinvigorated and playing like they are in the top few mids in the competition, yet everyone wanted them gone. Kreuzer breaks the record for tackles by any Carlton player in a game vs Geelong.. KREUZER!!!

In the last quarter it still would not have bothered me if Cats had overrun us (well it would have, but I still would have been stoked with the effort by this group to that stage), but instead we were still the better team in the last as well.

Bolton is already shoe-in for Coach of the Year imo, with no disrespect to Roos, Scott, Scott or anyone else.
He turned one of the least competitive units in the competition into a real football team again, 2 years earlier than ANYONE could have imagined.

Incredible win.  The coach is an extraordinary young fella.  Our zone defence is bamboozling teams!   In a way, considering how many first round draft picks we have in the side, I can almost understand why this is happening.  However, poor coaching has obviously hindered our ability to play to our full  potential.  Malthouse should be ashamed today.

One thing I've been thinking about for a few weeks is Cripps. I'm not sure if he is fully fit but over ran the ball a few times and struggle to pick it up. Just not looking as sharp as he normally does. He is still influencing games however which is always a positive.

I just hope he doesn't become our new lance whitnall where the game passes him by by the age of 24.

One thing I've been thinking about for a few weeks is Cripps. I'm not sure if he is fully fit but over ran the ball a few times and struggle to pick it up. Just not looking as sharp as he normally does. He is still influencing games however which is always a positive.

I just hope he doesn't become our new lance whitnall where the game passes him by by the age of 24.

Like how he out positioned and out marked Dangerfield 1 on 1 late in the last quarter?

Like how he out positioned and out marked Dangerfield 1 on 1 late in the last quarter?

I'm more refrencing his trouble when the ball hits the ground. That contest was huge, granted.

Any updates on Murphy and Sumner???

I know it's better not to look back but, sheesh, this side virtually bears no resemblance to the CFC side of this time last year.

There's a culture and a spirit being created and developed that is irresistible. And with the addition of some top end talent to come, we should get better.

As a critic of Everitt I must admit that not only did he play, probably, his best game for us but he was influential in our victory. I was at the game and impressed with willingness to do things he might not normally do. Now he has to continue in that vein, if not build even further. There was only a couple of softer efforts from him... let's get rid of those completely - his positioning and opportunism is at times really uncanny.

Concerned with Weits, looked tired/lacking a spark. I know he's a low key/serious character but when he dropped that overhead mark and seemed to hear footsteps... well, that's just not like him. He might seem mature beyond his years but he's still a kid.

Loved watching the ruthless persistence of the group. Uncompromising stuff. When Murphy went off Gibbs and other leaders stepped up - accountable and leadership initiative stuff.

Now to win a game we would be expected to win (Lions). Another big test.

Secondly, Sam Rowe. Not one disposal up to half time, but I have to give him credit for playing about as well as he can, on Hawkins. mind you, Hawkins missed two sodas in the first quarter which he should have kicked.

Since when have set shots from 50 out on an angle tighter than 45 degrees ever been considered sodas? Would be 50% shots for most of the best forwards in the competition and though he went 0.2 for those, it wasn't some fortuitous miracle he did. in fact 0.2 would have been just about as likely as 2.0 imo.


Okay just went back and looked at both on the 'smart replay' and it showed Hawkins was 10.16 from that range over his career (I think that is what those stats are showing), which means he was considerably more likely to miss both than score both and without doing the math, only marginally more likely to score 1.1 than he was to score 0.2

One thing I've been thinking about for a few weeks is Cripps. I'm not sure if he is fully fit but over ran the ball a few times and struggle to pick it up. Just not looking as sharp as he normally does. He is still influencing games however which is always a positive.

I just hope he doesn't become our new lance whitnall where the game passes him by by the age of 24.

Cripps was a little quieter in the first half and wasn't able to get his usual clearances because Blicavs did a reasonable job of tagging him.  Cripps flogged Blicavs in the second half but played more as an outside mid.  I thought that he showed his versatility and was just outside my best five players.  Keeping Blicavs to no possessions in the second half is an exceptional effort.

I am worried about the lad.  He ducked his head a couple of times today.  Perhaps when he builds up more this part of his game will fade, let's hope so.

That is the silliest post I have ever read.  'Worried about the lad"?  You are kidding me aren't you.  He's an 18 year old kid, playing like a 5 year defender.

That is the silliest post I have ever read.  'Worried about the lad"?  You are kidding me aren't you.  He's an 18 year old kid, playing like a 5 year defender.

ot buying into this issue, didn't think he dropped his head with that mark personally.

But to me, the lad does look weary admittedly but only 2 more games before the break.

Maybe Charlie C. will be back playing after the break? At least in the 2s?

Probably the first game where Weitering hasn't looked like he has played 100 games already... still had 17 possessions and took 8 marks. Think we can cut the kid some slack.

Weitering's dropped mark was not far from me and I didn't see any evidence of "footsteps" or ducking.  He simply misjudged the flight and I believe that is not unusual at Darklands.

I just read Bolton's post game comments and they are worth repeating:

Coach Brendon Bolton was proud of Carlton's tenacity against the Cats.

The manner of Carlton's victory, not the victory itself, defined what Carlton wants to be, coach Brendon Bolton said.

Being two players down on the bench, but to still hassle and pressure and work for one another was everything the club wanted to stand for, the young coach said.

"We can't be defined on just wins and losses. We need to be defined on pressure and I am glad they stood up," Bolton said of the victory over the second-placed Cats.

"It's about pressure. We want to be defined as a team that gives effort and pressure.

"You earn that over time though ... that's earned over years, Geelong have earned that over years, that sort of respect, and we are a very short way on a journey of earning that."

Carlton lost Marc Murphy and Liam Sumner to ankle injuries in the first quarter and they did not return for the rest of the match, damaging their midfield rotations.

"Significant, We had to roll more numbers through the midfield, Lamb, Wright just to name a few had to play more time on ball but its about opportunity for our whole collective to stand up. You saw Gibbs again, Curnow, Cripps, Everitt's run. Other guys stood up and that's important for us."

Bolton said Matthew Kreuzer was the spiritual leader of the group and his ability to get himself fit and only miss one match after having knee surgery inspired the group. Kreuzer laid 11 tackles.

"One thing abut big blokes when they play well others follow. Kreuzer is the spirit of Carlton. He is the spirit within our group, big blokes play well and tackle like that others follow," Bolton said.

He added: "You saw a few efforts that would make our members proud. I can remember a few efforts off the top of my head and I am at risk of missing a few here but (Dale) Thomas went back with the flight, I remember (Kade) Simpson going back with the flight. There are some courageous efforts."


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Simon Whites last quarter... Wow! I've been a fan but we will be better when he moves on... But his last quarter was so amazing. Take a bow mate...

Gibbs running up to him both spent shows the spirit in this side.

Bolton is a genius.

Absolutely loved that - it was the sort of thing you see Hodge or Jonno Brown do - real Captains effort to get over to him and let him know how much his extra effort meant

Cripps was a little quieter in the first half and wasn't able to get his usual clearances because Blicavs did a reasonable job of tagging him.  Cripps flogged Blicavs in the second half but played more as an outside mid.  I thought that he showed his versatility and was just outside my best five players.  Keeping Blicavs to no possessions in the second half is an exceptional effort.

He was a touch fumbly, though - which is very unlike him.  Might have just been that the heat at the contest was up another notch from any other game this year

Bolton's post game comments show how little the average supporter knows about what's going on inside the team, and I'm no exception by the way.
We've kicked a huge goal employing this fella, better late than never.

Probably the first game where Weitering hasn't looked like he has played 100 games already... still had 17 possessions and took 8 marks. Think we can cut the kid some slack.

Don't underestimate the 2 clean pick ups in the back half... clean hand sin pressure situations are absolutely vital.

Tough School.

Bolton's post game comments show how little the average supporter knows about what's going on inside the team, and I'm no exception by the way.
We've kicked a huge goal employing this fella, better late than never.

Indeed.

Anyone knocking Weitering's game is wrong, he played another very good game of football and still continues to look far more composed than a first year player.

This guy will be a superstar and if Boomer's prediction on Cripps were to come true we will be made

Anyone knocking Weitering's game is wrong, he played another very good game of football and still continues to look far more composed than a first year player.

This guy will be a superstar and if Boomer's prediction on Cripps were to come true we will be made

I missed it, what did he say?

I missed it, what did he say?

I'd also like to know.

Since when have set shots from 50 out on an angle tighter than 45 degrees ever been considered sodas? Would be 50% shots for most of the best forwards in the competition and though he went 0.2 for those, it wasn't some fortuitous miracle he did. in fact 0.2 would have been just about as likely as 2.0 imo.


Okay just went back and looked at both on the 'smart replay' and it showed Hawkins was 10.16 from that range over his career (I think that is what those stats are showing), which means he was considerably more likely to miss both than score both and without doing the math, only marginally more likely to score 1.1 than he was to score 0.2

With great respect, mateinone, Hawkins should have kicked both goals. The fact that his record from that area is 10.16, is frankly a reflection of his poor kicking, rather than the fact that any decent footballer would have kicked those goals. Thankfully, he didn't.

White was amazing in the last and he seemed to have some added confidence and just pushed forward - great effort.

Agree with Big Nic on our accurate kicking - I said earlier Army sometimes just misses those running into goals but nailed his three - however I disagree the cats would've walloped us had they kicked straight in the first - still think we were on yday and nothing was going to change that.

Also agree re Lions - would not be at all surprised if we were beaten as we were fierce and must be feeling it today - I hope we can win it though!

Bottom line Mickey, is that we won by 19 points. If we kick 2.2 to 6.3, we don't win the game no matter how on we are.
If 4 of those Geelong behinds which should have been goals are kicked, we lose.

I would have agreed with you, had we beaten them by 6 goals.

Anyway, it's the old saying, if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.

We all know, or at least should know, that straight kicking makes a huge difference to a result. While taking nothing away from the boys endevour, this game was a prime example of that.

He was a touch fumbly, though - which is very unlike him.  Might have just been that the heat at the contest was up another notch from any other game this year

Agree, completely with that Mil. In fact, I can't recall him fumbling more in a game than he did on Sunday.

Having said that, if his body stands up to the inevitable wear and tear of this gane, he will be one of the greatest footballers to have ever played for our club.

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We all know, or at least should know, that straight kicking makes a huge difference to a result. While taking nothing away from the boys endevour, this game was a prime example of that.

Hence why guys like Breust and Gunston, despite not being the badly named gorilla type KF, are worth their weight in gold. Put very simply, you get greater reward for your effort and for your F50 entries. In a word, efficiency.

Bottom line Mickey, is that we won by 19 points. If we kick 2.2 to 6.3, we don't win the game no matter how on we are.
If 4 of those Geelong behinds which should have been goals are kicked, we lose.

I would have agreed with you, had we beaten them by 6 goals.

Anyway, it's the old saying, if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.

We all know, or at least should know, that straight kicking makes a huge difference to a result. While taking nothing away from the boys endevour, this game was a prime example of that.

Bad kicking is bad footy. How many games have we lost due to bad kicking at goal? Its swings and roundabouts.

re: Weitering....wasnt sure if he did duck his head or he just did a Hampson and misjudged the flight of the ball....
Thought he had a hard time early with Stanley who is very mobile for a big bloke and he didnt seem to keep up with him very well but as the game went on I thought he got better and took some nice marks and cleared the ball well....

Cripps flogged Blicavs in the second half but played more as an outside mid.

If you look at Cripp's last few week...quiet in the first half, blistering in the second. Might just need time to work over the tag.

I'd love someone to interview Malthouse this morning to see what his take on our season is.

I'd rather read Juddy's mind, "Why the fleck didn't this all happen 2 years ago, I'd be doing a Bob Murphy and be ready by Round 11, if it did!!"

Any updates on Murphy and Sumner???

Shane O'Sullivan was spotted at Tulla, coming through customs with a refill of the Lourdes water bottle that was all used up last week. Murph will be fine.

re: Weitering....wasnt sure if he did duck his head or he just did a Hampson and misjudged the flight of the ball....
Thought he had a hard time early with Stanley who is very mobile for a big bloke and he didnt seem to keep up with him very well but as the game went on I thought he got better and took some nice marks and cleared the ball well....

Never shirked anything during his TAC days. I suspect he'd spent it before it stuck. One of his strengths is just 'knowing' the best option to take when the pill is in his hands.

If you look at Cripp's last few week...quiet in the first half, blistering in the second. Might just need time to work over the tag.

Yep been noticing this trend as well.

Diesel was very similar got better as the game went on.....personally think that as was the case with Diesel they are both not blessed with pace to match the explosive mids so as the pace wears off later in games these sorts of players don't get much slower and as the gap narrows they see a lot more of the play.

Its nice that when you see Cripps with 10 or less touches at half time you can be confident his best footy is still to come when usually the match is in the balance.

To me Weitering didn't look right - he didn't look confident from The get go, which I assume was because he wasn't feeling great or didn't he injure his leg early?

In the social club at the end when some of the boys walked towards the stage he had his head down the entire time whereas the other boys were heads up and stopping for some Fans that got in their way or high fived them. 

He seemed... Run down or I don't know how to put it, just withdrawn I suppose. I think he's injured.

I think he's nervous, said after his shoulder that he'd never been injured before, maybe realising how hard senior footy can be. Club needs to support him through it I reckon.

With great respect, mateinone, Hawkins should have kicked both goals. The fact that his record from that area is 10.16, is frankly a reflection of his poor kicking, rather than the fact that any decent footballer would have kicked those goals. Thankfully, he didn't.

Wait so Tom Hawkins is now considered a sub-standard kick fod goal, I mean you are saying that it is more likely he is a poor kick than the fact it is more difficult than you suggest to kick from that distance and angle right?

Hmm

So 129 VFL/AFL players have kicked 350 league goals, Tom has 354.
Of those players, 87 of them have records on AFL Tables for the number of behinds they have kicked.
Of these players (who I suspect most fall under the category of 'any decent footballer') Tom Hawkins sits 22nd for accuracy at 64.25%.
8 Players in the history of the game with 350+ goals have a percent about 66% (Eddie Betts is one of them).
Brendan Fevola sits 49th on this list.

btw... A player would need to kick at an average of about 70.5% on average for it to be the most likely result that they would score 2.0 from there.  I am sorry, but you are speaking based not at all on fact, but just on emotion and 'gut feel' that says they were sitters, when in fact they were anything but. Certainly goals that were well within Hawkins range (and other players), but absolutely nothing like the sodas you first mentioned and then tried to support.

You must be retired like me, to have time to go to all that trouble and get those stats.

Anyway, bottom line is, I thought he should have kicked them. He didn't. We won. The number is in the frame. Correct weight has been declared. Now lets go have a drink. :D :D :D

Not sure the purpose of this post Krud, honestly my comment on Malthouse wasn't specific to Kreuzer, Gibbs or anyone in particular. The post on Malthouse was on the intensity of playing football as a club, which they are absolutely doing under Bolton and absolutely were not under MM.
I never seen Carlton try less (even in our post Salary Cap breach years) then I did under MM.

I am simply happy to see Carlton trying and giving it all and Bolton is absolutely responsible for that.

All i am saying is that it was not ALL micks fault we sucked
and
It is not ALL Bolts doing that we are going ok.

As for haven't seen a worse side than under Mick? You've got a short memory.

I remember many a game under Pagan. 10 goal loss on average every 4 weeks. Including 1 against the tigers were we let them kick the first 13 goals of the match.

Credit where credit is due. But i think you have to give SOS a fair whack of credit for giving Bolts the players he has.

Not a short memory at all Krud.
Mick took a team that was premiership favorite at one stage the year before.
A team that had Betts, Waite, Garlett, Yarran and Walker firing under Yarran and turned them into a completely noncompetitive unit. A team Mick claimed was ready to challenge, the board claimed was ready to challenge and to be honest a list most people thought was firing until a horrible injury run.

Under Pagan our list was pretty awful for a long time and things we were dreadful, particularly towards the end, I am more than aware of that and don't need reminding as if to suggest I am overlooking that period at all, I doubt any Carlton supporter over 25 could possible ever forget that period.

Now I am not into all the debates that I have no doubt happen on this site about Mick and whether he was the problem or not, so I don't know people's opinions.

But I have mine.

Through the last 20 years we have had a number of people have absolutely horrible impacts on Carlton.
John Elliot
Ian Collins
Dennis Pagan

Are just a few (Sticks and a few of his tight knit cronies also were more bad than good unfortunately)

But number one to me and by a very long margin... Is our previous coach.
He ruined what was a very competitive list, ruined the chance to challenge in Judd's final years, seen good players turn absolutely awful. He had zero idea how to play a game plan to the strengths of our team and oversaw the departure of our entire forward line.

Bolton (imo) is absolutely categorically the reason for this turnaround. The player ARE buying into his message and this team is playing much better than I have seen in a long time and better than it EVER played under Malthouse, including the Richmond final.

Watching the team for the first time since the days of Ratts, it felt like we had extra players on the ground, we got more players to all the contests, something I have rued forever when we are on the receiving end of that. Now you don't have to think this is down to Bolton and no down all the assistants play their part, but I am 100% sure that if this team was led by Malthouse right now we would be at best 1 win from the first 10 (which is about where most pundits would have had us at the start of the season) and that is based on the exposed form from the last few years.

As for SOS, I don't have any doubt he has been doing his job and a few of the young guys he has brought in have done well. But it is the re-invigoration of the older players (we still have an old list on average age) that really sees us 5-5, though yes I do think SOS has done a great job

Not a short memory at all Krud.
Mick took a team that was premiership favorite at one stage the year before.
A team that had Betts, Waite, Garlett, Yarran and Walker firing under Yarran and turned them into a completely noncompetitive unit. A team Mick claimed was ready to challenge, the board claimed was ready to challenge and to be honest a list most people thought was firing until a horrible injury run.

Under Pagan our list was pretty awful for a long time and things we were dreadful, particularly towards the end, I am more than aware of that and don't need reminding as if to suggest I am overlooking that period at all, I doubt any Carlton supporter over 25 could possible ever forget that period.

Now I am not into all the debates that I have no doubt happen on this site about Mick and whether he was the problem or not, so I don't know people's opinions.

But I have mine.

Through the last 20 years we have had a number of people have absolutely horrible impacts on Carlton.
John Elliot
Ian Collins
Dennis Pagan

Are just a few (Sticks and a few of his tight knit cronies also were more bad than good unfortunately)

But number one to me and by a very long margin... Is our previous coach.
He ruined what was a very competitive list, ruined the chance to challenge in Judd's final years, seen good players turn absolutely awful. He had zero idea how to play a game plan to the strengths of our team and oversaw the departure of our entire forward line.

Bolton (imo) is absolutely categorically the reason for this turnaround. The player ARE buying into his message and this team is playing much better than I have seen in a long time and better than it EVER played under Malthouse, including the Richmond final.

Watching the team for the first time since the days of Ratts, it felt like we had extra players on the ground, we got more players to all the contests, something I have rued forever when we are on the receiving end of that. Now you don't have to think this is down to Bolton and no down all the assistants play their part, but I am 100% sure that if this team was led by Malthouse right now we would be at best 1 win from the first 10 (which is about where most pundits would have had us at the start of the season) and that is based on the exposed form from the last few years.

As for SOS, I don't have any doubt he has been doing his job and a few of the young guys he has brought in have done well. But it is the re-invigoration of the older players (we still have an old list on average age) that really sees us 5-5, though yes I do think SOS has done a great job

Bingo.

There's no doubt at all. 90% Mick's fault. 90% Bolton's credit.

Simplistic view IMO, not in yours.

We move on

Not a short memory at all Krud.
Mick took a team that was premiership favorite at one stage the year before.
A team that had Betts, Waite, Garlett, Yarran and Walker firing under Yarran and turned them into a completely noncompetitive unit. A team Mick claimed was ready to challenge, the board claimed was ready to challenge and to be honest a list most people thought was firing until a horrible injury run.

Under Pagan our list was pretty awful for a long time and things we were dreadful, particularly towards the end, I am more than aware of that and don't need reminding as if to suggest I am overlooking that period at all, I doubt any Carlton supporter over 25 could possible ever forget that period.

Now I am not into all the debates that I have no doubt happen on this site about Mick and whether he was the problem or not, so I don't know people's opinions.

But I have mine.

Through the last 20 years we have had a number of people have absolutely horrible impacts on Carlton.
John Elliot
Ian Collins
Dennis Pagan

Are just a few (Sticks and a few of his tight knit cronies also were more bad than good unfortunately)

But number one to me and by a very long margin... Is our previous coach.
He ruined what was a very competitive list, ruined the chance to challenge in Judd's final years, seen good players turn absolutely awful. He had zero idea how to play a game plan to the strengths of our team and oversaw the departure of our entire forward line.

Bolton (imo) is absolutely categorically the reason for this turnaround. The player ARE buying into his message and this team is playing much better than I have seen in a long time and better than it EVER played under Malthouse, including the Richmond final.

Watching the team for the first time since the days of Ratts, it felt like we had extra players on the ground, we got more players to all the contests, something I have rued forever when we are on the receiving end of that. Now you don't have to think this is down to Bolton and no down all the assistants play their part, but I am 100% sure that if this team was led by Malthouse right now we would be at best 1 win from the first 10 (which is about where most pundits would have had us at the start of the season) and that is based on the exposed form from the last few years.

As for SOS, I don't have any doubt he has been doing his job and a few of the young guys he has brought in have done well. But it is the re-invigoration of the older players (we still have an old list on average age) that really sees us 5-5, though yes I do think SOS has done a great job

Agreed. Malthouse was a complete and utter disaster.

I hope we don't get into BB worshipping... just more Messiah stuff. First thing to love about BB is what he is bringing and has brought to the club - 'leadership dense and a ruthless desire to succeed at everything' culture, inclusiveness, discipline, reality, unity, all club community .... And I'm pretty confident that that is what he would want supporters to love/worship - the growth and development of our club, not individuals.

I hope we don't get into BB worshipping... just more Messiah stuff. First thing to love about BB is what he is bringing and has brought to the club - 'leadership dense and a ruthless desire to succeed at everything' culture, inclusiveness, discipline, reality, unity, all club community .... And I'm pretty confident that that is what he would want supporters to love/worship - the growth and development of our club, not individuals.

Saw him walking across the Yarra this morning... without a bridge

Not a short memory at all Krud.
Mick took a team that was premiership favorite at one stage the year before.
A team that had Betts, Waite, Garlett, Yarran and Walker firing under Yarran and turned them into a completely noncompetitive unit. A team Mick claimed was ready to challenge, the board claimed was ready to challenge and to be honest a list most people thought was firing until a horrible injury run.

Under Pagan our list was pretty awful for a long time and things we were dreadful, particularly towards the end, I am more than aware of that and don't need reminding as if to suggest I am overlooking that period at all, I doubt any Carlton supporter over 25 could possible ever forget that period.

Now I am not into all the debates that I have no doubt happen on this site about Mick and whether he was the problem or not, so I don't know people's opinions.

But I have mine.

Through the last 20 years we have had a number of people have absolutely horrible impacts on Carlton.
John Elliot
Ian Collins
Dennis Pagan

Are just a few (Sticks and a few of his tight knit cronies also were more bad than good unfortunately)

But number one to me and by a very long margin... Is our previous coach.
He ruined what was a very competitive list, ruined the chance to challenge in Judd's final years, seen good players turn absolutely awful. He had zero idea how to play a game plan to the strengths of our team and oversaw the departure of our entire forward line.

Bolton (imo) is absolutely categorically the reason for this turnaround. The player ARE buying into his message and this team is playing much better than I have seen in a long time and better than it EVER played under Malthouse, including the Richmond final.

Watching the team for the first time since the days of Ratts, it felt like we had extra players on the ground, we got more players to all the contests, something I have rued forever when we are on the receiving end of that. Now you don't have to think this is down to Bolton and no down all the assistants play their part, but I am 100% sure that if this team was led by Malthouse right now we would be at best 1 win from the first 10 (which is about where most pundits would have had us at the start of the season) and that is based on the exposed form from the last few years.

As for SOS, I don't have any doubt he has been doing his job and a few of the young guys he has brought in have done well. But it is the re-invigoration of the older players (we still have an old list on average age) that really sees us 5-5, though yes I do think SOS has done a great job

Nailed it MIO.  Fifteen of the blokes who took the field on Sunday were running around last year and all of them are playing better footy than they have for a while.  Bolton has made a huge difference, not only to the playing group but to the club as a whole.

I could go on a rant about the simplistic view that it was always the players' fault but I'd rather just celebrate the fact that we have a coach who knows what he is doing, is getting the best out of our list, and will not be satisfied until our best is even better.

Only takes one weak link in a side to make things turn to crap and we got rid of a few bludgers.

I think we can look at it in simplistic terms.

To me it's as simple as this ...for the first time for more than a decade we seem to have a club united.
The method of Bolton's appointment has meant that he is getting support from all sections of the club.

Brittain
Pagan
Ratten
Malthouse

The way they came to the positions meant that there were always elements of the club that thought someone else could do a better job....the white ants.

I thought Brittain and Ratten were hard done by.
I have little time for the Pagan and Malthouse periods but because of the resistance they faced I don't regard them with the same derision as others.
The club itself was not conducive to a united effort.

Bolton has to be given credit for seemingly being able to overcome that culture and getting everyone on the same page. Trigg and the other admin folk deserve credit for assisting in that process.

Bolton strikes me as a culture shaper and in that respect he is a coach for our times...something others weren't....but don't underestimate or disregard the efforts of everyone to buy into what he's selling.

Docherty will be in the AA squad at the half way mark... he looked a nice player when we got him, but he has gone to an elite level this year. Sensational player. Will go close to being the next captain.

Career best for Hampson isn't that good, but he is doing a job for the Tigers. I'd take Docherty every day of the week, but let's be magnanimous and call it a win-win.

Bear i think your from Brisbane and i remember you saying what a great pick up he was when we got him down to Carlton. You were right on the money

Only takes one weak link in a side to make things turn to crap and we got rid of a few bludgers.

 I wouldn't have thought compliant, solid citizen type players like Hendo and Menzel would be too difficult for someone like Bolts to pull into line, but it's all water under the bridge now.

Then why didn't we keep Menzel, has anyone seen the guy this year? Where is Yarran now?

re: Weitering....wasnt sure if he did duck his head or he just did a Hampson and misjudged the flight of the ball....
Thought he had a hard time early with Stanley who is very mobile for a big bloke and he didnt seem to keep up with him very well but as the game went on I thought he got better and took some nice marks and cleared the ball well....

Agree with EB on this one. Just finished watching the replay and watched that a couple of times and he did not duck his head and just misjudged it. Has ben reported that even though the roof is closed that there can be a swirly wind inside the ground. He did get better as the game went on.

Then why didn't we keep Menzel, has anyone seen the guy this year? Where is Yarran now?

I don't know - I guess they considered him good trade bait. I'm guessing also that SOS and Bolts thought his trade out could be covered by the players being brought in. He's playing in the Adelaide 2's. Maybe he's another lifestyle AFL player, like Kane Lucas. Injuries didn't help him. Also, I don't think the Crows forward line is the easiest to break into.

Yazz is supposedly in WA on indefinite leave. I didn't mention him for obvious reasons.

That is the silliest post I have ever read.  'Worried about the lad"?  You are kidding me aren't you.  He's an 18 year old kid, playing like a 5 year defender.

I am worried that being thrust into the seniors at a very young age and coming up against some very much stronger bodies that he MAY not be looking only for the ball.  Other posters agree with me and he is certainly not playing like a 5 year defender.  If he was playing like you say he would be breaking packs apart as he clears downfield not merely dodge and dance around in the clear (or nearly clear).  He certainly looks like he will make it but he requires more muscle on those bones of his.

Remember Watts being greeted by Collingwood playeys in his debut.  They monstered him when he came off the bench and set him back many years.  I worry for the same happening to Dettering before he reaches his potential.

I am worried that being thrust into the seniors at a very young age and coming up against some very much stronger bodies that he MAY not be looking only for the ball.  Other posters agree with me and he is certainly not playing like a 5 year defender.  If he was playing like you say he would be breaking packs apart as he clears downfield not merely dodge and dance around in the clear (or nearly clear).  He certainly looks like he will make it but he requires more muscle on those bones of his.

Remember Watts being greeted by Collingwood playeys in his debut.  They monstered him when he came off the bench and set him back many years.  I worry for the same happening to Dettering before he reaches his potential.

Chalky there is no doubt they have to tread carefully with JW and monitor his progress so that he doesnt get "thrashed". Firstly I have the utmost confidence in the people in charge to to make the right decisions. Secondly, I personally have seen nothing to suggested JW is suffering or showing signs of weakness. In fact, I reckon he is actually intimidating a few much older opponents with his poise and maturity. He's fine, he's special and he's a ripper.

Post of the year thus far. 3 Votes.

Adam Hartlett tweeted "Reports Lachy Henderson has requested to be traded after 2 Geelong losses in a row"  ;D ;D ;D ;D

This argument about who is to blame for previous years and who gets the credit for this year reminds me of the 5 blind guys who all get to touch an elephant and describe to everyone else what an elephant is...

This argument about who is to blame for previous years and who gets the credit for this year reminds me of the 5 blind guys who all get to touch an elephant and describe to everyone else what an elephant is...

Od Military Maxim: Victory has many fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

Anyone else notice how disingenuous Scott is being re the Pussy's loss? No mention of the CFC. He's making it clear that we didn't win but rather the Pussy's lost it. Funny but the game I was at on Sunday looked very much like the mob with the hoops weren't allowed to play their natural game due to the intensity of the mob in navy blue. Most losing coaches have the manners to mention the good play of the opposition.

Perhaps he's cracked the sh1tes at being outcoached by a 'novice'? Perhaps Scott is just pr1ck?

Anyone else notice how disingenuous Scott is being re the Pussy's loss? No mention of the CFC. He's making it clear that we didn't win but rather the Pussy's lost it. Funny but the game I was at on Sunday looked very much like the mob with the hoops weren't allowed to play their natural game due to the intensity of the mob in navy blue. Most losing coaches have the manners to mention the good play of the opposition.

Perhaps he's cracked the sh1tes at being outcoached by a 'novice'? Perhaps Scott is just pr1ck?

Agree...reading through his presser, the Cats have lost to two ordinary teams who in his words are no scoring juggernauts...
Sore loser who had our game pencilled in as a win.....his blokes were out worked, are inaccurate in front of goal and are not that good...hope he is enjoying Lachie Henderson's footy this season...
Like to see both Scott brothers out in straight sets at finals time.....

Neither of the Scotts rate Carlton so it would be galling to admit that Carlton is the better team. They've both got some tough times ahead once we start beating them.

Agree...reading through his presser, the Cats have lost to two ordinary teams who in his words are no scoring juggernauts...
Sore loser who had our game pencilled in as a win.....his blokes were out worked, are inaccurate in front of goal and are not that good...hope he is enjoying Lachie Henderson's footy this season...
Like to see both Scott brothers out in straight sets at finals time.....

Yes, a simple "We were outplayed by the better team on the day" would have been appropriate before focusing on why his team sucked.  I seem to remember a coach who started almost every presser with "We played a very good team today"   ;)

I don't expect opposition coaches to sing our praises but failing to acknowledge the winning team is not part of our sporting ethos.

Often when there's an upset win you get the feeling that the side expected to win was actually the better team and it is just a bit of inaccuracy or luck going against them... even when they're well behind there's always the danger that they'll eventually come back.

It was never going to happen on the weekend (though some of us probably weren't confident until it was clearly safe :D) ....every challenge was met and squashed.

We all give Robbo (a deservedly) fair bake on a regular basis but on AFL360 last night he was pretty "gushing" in his praise of the effort.

I sensed he was trying to get a concession out of Scott that Carlton were really good and he wasn't buying Scott's diversions.

Brayshaw said the same thing on radio, said no doubt the cats were flat against the pies the week prior but they definitely came to play against us and we just out pressured them.

Brayshaw said the same thing on radio, said no doubt the cats were flat against the pies the week prior but they definitely came to play against us and we just out pressured them.

As we were flat against North (and without MK and LC).

Yes, a simple "We were outplayed by the better team on the day" would have been appropriate before focusing on why his team sucked.  I seem to remember a coach who started almost every presser with "We played a very good team today"   ;)

I don't expect opposition coaches to sing our praises but failing to acknowledge the winning team is not part of our sporting ethos.

The Cats' Scott is the biggest whinger and the most ungracious loser this side of Serena Williams and Federer.

The Cats' Scott is the biggest whinger and the most ungracious loser this side of Serena Williams and Federer.

At least he was fair dinkum in his awarding of votes for the coaches' award  :)

"Quite honestly my dears, I don't give a damn what the Scotts think of us!" to paraphrase Rhett Butler.

I can't remember seeing a team that was so relentless with it's tackling.  One passage of play that stands out is the string of hard, effective tackles that led to Gorringe's intercept mark and goal.

In years gone by we wouldn't have maintained that pressure beyond one or two tackles and an honourable attempt.

If Scott was honest, he would have admitted that his team wilted under our relentless pressure and continuous effort.

I can't remember seeing a team that was so relentless with it's tackling.  One passage of play that stands out is the string of hard, effective tackles that led to Gorringe's intercept mark and goal.

In years gone by we wouldn't have maintained that pressure beyond one or two tackles and an honourable attempt.

If Scott was honest, he would have admitted that his team wilted under our relentless pressure and continuous effort.

The Scotts are whingers.

Bear i think your from Brisbane and i remember you saying what a great pick up he was when we got him down to Carlton. You were right on the money

Not sure that was me, but i'll take it anyway!

The Scotts are whingers.

Was Chris Scott who bumped the injured Nick Reiwoldt as he was being taken off the ground wasnt it?......gives you an idea of the character of the man....

Was Chris Scott who bumped the injured Nick Reiwoldt as he was being taken off the ground wasnt it?......gives you an idea of the character of the man....

Yes, definitely Chris.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html)

He got one thing right....

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html)

He got one thing right....

Did he mention himself?

Did he mention himself?

????

Was Chris Scott who bumped the injured Nick Reiwoldt as he was being taken off the ground wasnt it?......gives you an idea of the character of the man....

Actually I thought it was Chris Johnson, but maybe both of them had a go?

Mal Michael and Chris Scott

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Mal Michael and Chris Johnson

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Listen at about 2.00 - the commentator mentions Chris Scott and Michael.

Yeah typo from me, I meant Chris Scott

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/geelong-are-overrated-says-coach-chris-scott-20160530-gp7nl9.html)

He got one thing right....

Scott still doesn't get it!  Geelong isn't overrated, he underestimated our ability to apply sustained pressure and, more importantly, underestimated our coach's ability to develop and implement a match winning strategy.

"Quite honestly my dears, I don't give a damn what the Scotts think of us!" to paraphrase Rhett Butler.

My thoughts, exactly. I learnt quite some time ago that neither of the Scotts had a good word for us, nor any team they lose to. I'm inclined to let it go through to the keeper: neither of them is someone who impresses me as a human. I'm much more worried about getting the next trade/draft period right and continuing to build on what we have. You listen to Bolton and he doesn't behave like a spoilt child. I'm happy enough to move on to our next challenge and hope we can continue to improve.

My thoughts, exactly. I learnt quite some time ago that neither of the Scotts had a good word for us, nor any team they lose to. I'm inclined to let it go through to the keeper: neither of them is someone who impresses me as a human. I'm much more worried about getting the next trade/draft period right and continuing to build on what we have. You listen to Bolton and he doesn't behave like a spoilt child. I'm happy enough to move on to our next challenge and hope we can continue to improve.

One of Bolton's first comments at his presser was along the lines of Geelong earning respect over many years.  I guess the Scotts weren't brought up proper  :)

One of Bolton's first comments at his presser was along the lines of Geelong earning respect over many years.  I guess the Scotts weren't brought up proper  :)

It was simply good manners and correct from Bolton. Chris Scott has hardly had to coach that lot. Their senior players are utterly professional, and it was a fair bit of good fortune that saw so many of them play at the same time in the same club. That being said, geelong are one of the handful of clubs that have got their act together as an organisation. Only them, Hawthorn, sydney and west coast really get it, in so far as getting the organisation as a whole working well and not making as much of a distinction between on and off field. Scott walked into a place that was working very well. He got a premiership in his first year. Time he learned how to lose with a bit of grace, as it is going to happen more. Does anyone really think henderson can replace the likes of Enright?

CFC, if one is to be optomistic, finally get it now too. It's not just the coach, it's everyone.

I think this game is a very good example of the old "a champion team is better than a team of champions". Sustained effort and sustaining the correct attitude for 4 q helps enormously in AFL footy. 

The boys gave effort and attitude worthy of a GF IMO.

This doesn't mean of course that we don't go after talent. But hopefully, the club understands that the effort and attitude shown in this game is not simply to compensate for a lack of top end players. I would hate to think that these two attributes drop off once the club has a better list, believing that such a list will get you over the line, without the requisite work rate.

I wonder whether this is the trap that the Cats fell into ?

I think this game is a very good example of the old "a champion team is better than a team of champions". Sustained effort and sustaining the correct attitude for 4 q helps enormously in AFL footy. 

The boys gave effort and attitude worthy of a GF IMO.

This doesn't mean of course that we don't go after talent. But hopefully, the club understands that the effort and attitude shown in this game is not simply to compensate for a lack of top end players. I would hate to think that these two attributes drop off once the club has a better list, believing that such a list will get you over the line, without the requisite work rate.

I wonder whether this is the trap that the Cats fell into ?

I have a feeling that the "team of champions" saying may haunt GWS for some time.

I suspect Geelong were expecting not only a win but a soft contest.  On the other hand, our players are drilled into believing that they will win if they apply maximum effort.

I have a feeling that the "team of champions" saying may haunt GWS for some time.

I suspect Geelong were expecting not only a win but a soft contest.  On the other hand, our players are drilled into believing that they will win if they apply maximum effort.

On the last point, the post match presser from pea brain Scott gave the impression (as others, including you, have noted) that it was all about them, and that all they needed to was show up. An attitude that appears to have been there for a while and seemingly also filtered down to the players.