The Battle of Bell St.
I don't see a lot of talent out there this week. Hopefully a few of the more senior players can lift this week.
I think you mean "try" Crash, but you're being diplomatic.
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The Blues are 19 points ahead at 3/4 time.
Blues 63
Lions 44
DISPOSALS: Kennedy 22, Fisher 18, Goddard 18, Lobbe 16, Anderson 15, Fasolo 15.
Not what you'd call a fantastic performance against the 2nd bottom side, but everything consider it isn't a diasaster either.
Into the final quarter
NB 79 COB 45.
Good start into the wind.
Baby Blues now 7 goals up and moving away.
NB 97 COB 45.
Phillips has 3.
Goddard hs 29 disposals and 11 marks at CHB. Having another really solid game. Not sure about how much Garlett wants to be there, but Goddard certainly does!
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41.
Patrick Kerr appears to have been pretty quiet: 1 goal only. Alex Johnson appears to have got through the game, although he didn't have a huge influence. Still, I'm sure the lads appreciate a smart and experienced head.
Northern Blues
14.15 (99)
Coburg
11.4 (70)
Not long to go. Coburg kicked the last 4 with the wind. We've relaxed an they haven't yet.
make that 4 Crash!
make that 4 Crash!
We've stopped to admire the win.
Um, 5 now!
looks like our lads went to sleep....
23 margin :(
six!!
17 points the gap...
Um, 5 now!
looks like our lads went to sleep....
23 margin :(
:( :( :(
six!!
17 points the gap...
Throwing away a good win.
We got there, by 17 points!
Northern Blues 14 - 15 - 99
Coburg 13 - 4 - 82
Goddard was great, must be in contention at some stage. His marking was excellent. DeKoning has put on some beef and looks very solid. Phillips was also very good both on the ball and up forward. Garlett was flashy, Polson was his normal self...nothing much. Great to see Johnston on the park. Kerr was sent down back for the last quarter, no great influence at either end.
If I was Teague and the MC, I’d do a real development job on DeKoning and leave him in the NBs for the rest of the year to perfect his craft because he looks the ‘raw’ goods. Phillips can cover if Kreuzer goes down and Kerr can step up if there is a need in the forward line. nB development and a big, uninterrupted preseason and then we release ‘The King’!
Always enjoy it when the the AFL and VFL teams win. Well done NB's.
Goddard has been a good for a few weeks in a row now and must be close, bit hard to fit him in though with the Bolt performing well and Jones due back..
Great to see Johnson in the winning circle.
Hugh Goddard seems to be doing everything he can to debut. Perseverance has a way of paying back.
Similarly pleased for big Flipper.
Congratulations to the ????????????
Any idea why we reverted to the bullant in the vfl this week instead of the cfc logo?
Any idea why we reverted to the bullant in the vfl this week instead of the cfc logo?
Just guessing here - something to do with Teague ? He coached them when they were called the Bullants. But no, I don't really know.
EDIT : Nothing to do with DT. It was the club's Heritage round.
Any idea why we reverted to the bullant in the vfl this week instead of the cfc logo?
I think they nominate this round as Heritage Round.
The highlights of Cottrell - he looks a likely type. 19 pos and 2 goals is a good return. I saw him a few weeks ago and he looked very scratchy. Hopefully he gets better from here. Excellent runner and only 19. Could be a handy SOS selection if he keeps up this progress.
NORTHERN BLUES 3.4 6.6 10.12 14.15 (99)
COBURG LIONS 1.0 6.2 7.3 13.4 (82)
GOALS: Phillips 3, Brazier 2, Cottrell 2, Palmer 2, Fisher, Kennedy, Kerr, Owies, Polson
BESTS: Goddard, Kennedy, O’Rourke, Fasolo, Cottrell, Garlett
DISPOSALS: Kennedy 30, O'Rourke 23, Goddard 22, Fasolo 20, Lobbe 20, Cottrell 19, Fisher 19.
Very nice to see Cottrell mentioned for the 1st time.
Also a nice surprise to see Garlett getting a mention. Hopefully he can respond to the change of management. I doubt it, but I can hope.
The highlights of Cottrell - he looks a likely type. 19 pos and 2 goals is a good return. I saw him a few weeks ago and he looked very scratchy. Hopefully he gets better from here. Excellent runner and only 19. Could be a handy SOS selection if he keeps up this progress.
I thought that he was quite impressive in the games I have seen; goes hard, makes second and third efforts, and uses the ball well. What’s not to like?
Of course, he’s still a long way off a senior spot but he could be challenger after a full pre-season.
I thought that he was quite impressive in the games I have seen; goes hard, makes second and third efforts, and uses the ball well. What’s not to like?
Of course, he’s still a long way off a senior spot but he could be challenger after a full pre-season.
The couple of games I saw him play earlier in the year I thought he looked ok but was very quiet. 10-15 possessions so to see him making progress is great. We need to see more of our later picks putting their hand up.
So far we've seen modest progress from a lot of our later (non-mature) draftees like Macreadie, Lebois, Finbar, Kerr, BSOS and Polson. Jack and Williamson have been the 2 best by quite a long way.
I thought that he was quite impressive in the games I have seen; goes hard, makes second and third efforts, and uses the ball well. What’s not to like?
Of course, he’s still a long way off a senior spot but he could be challenger after a full pre-season.
Agree, has grown a bit as well, has good agility, reach and is certainly aggressive. Sticks tackles OK, and will only get better.
I'd still like Matt Kennedy to be given the opportunities at senior level that Dow and LOB get.....
I'd still like Matt Kennedy to be given the opportunities at senior level that Dow and LOB get.....
Can't see Kennedy getting a gig while Setterfield and Ed are in the midfield rotations, he has to displace one of them!
Can't see Kennedy getting a gig while Setterfield and Ed are in the midfield rotations, he has to displace one of them!
you're probably right, sadly.
The couple of games I saw him play earlier in the year I thought he looked ok but was very quiet. 10-15 possessions so to see him making progress is great. We need to see more of our later picks putting their hand up.
So far we've seen modest progress from a lot of our later (non-mature) draftees like Macreadie, Lebois, Finbar, Kerr, BSOS and Polson. Jack and Williamson have been the 2 best by quite a long way.
Reckon Kerr has gone well and would thrive in a senior position somewhere. He's a bit locked out right now. I'd add him to Jack and Williamson.
Reckon Polson issue is reading the game initially. Runs around a lot but struggles to be where the ball actually is. When he does go ok it's usually the 2nd half of a game when he's reading it a lot better. Macreadie showed quite a bit early but injuries have held him back. No where in the back line for him to play though. Like Kerr, locked out, although, unlike Kerr, whether he's good enough is another matter.
Reckon Kerr has gone well and would thrive in a senior position somewhere. He's a bit locked out right now. I'd add him to Jack and Williamson.
Reckon Polson issue is reading the game initially. Runs around a lot but struggles to be where the ball actually is. When he does go ok it's usually the 2nd half of a game when he's reading it a lot better. Macreadie showed quite a bit early but injuries have held him back. No where in the back line for him to play though. Like Kerr, locked out, although, unlike Kerr, whether he's good enough is another matter.
x2 on Kerr...
Polson is a VFL player only IMO, has a go but lacks a few tricks..
MacReadie...dont know what to make of him, started off ok in his intial season but this season in the games I have watched he has been ordinary.
The couple of games I saw him play earlier in the year I thought he looked ok but was very quiet. 10-15 possessions so to see him making progress is great. We need to see more of our later picks putting their hand up.
So far we've seen modest progress from a lot of our later (non-mature) draftees like Macreadie, Lebois, Finbar, Kerr, BSOS and Polson. Jack and Williamson have been the 2 best by quite a long way.
BSOS and Finbar should be in the development team but that was scrapped. Both just pups.
I'd still like Matt Kennedy to be given the opportunities at senior level that Dow and LOB get.....
I'd like him to show enough to justify getting more opportunities.
I'd still like Matt Kennedy to be given the opportunities at senior level that Dow and LOB get.....
Different players though.
The latter 2 are speed and run. Kennedy is the grunt. Setterfield is a mix of the 2, and showing more than Kennedy.
It was great that Alex Johnson got through the game. I hope he has some luck with his knees into the future.
It was great that Alex Johnson got through the game. I hope he has some luck with his knees into the future.
Yep, here's hoping. Good luck AJ.
Different players though.
The latter 2 are speed and run. Kennedy is the grunt. Setterfield is a mix of the 2, and showing more than Kennedy.
Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
Setters is showing more than Kennedy? When was that?
Must have missed it....
A fit Kennedy is far from slow. he can play inside or outside and play forward....and he's a footballer.
And he can hit the door of a barn unlike Dow who misses the entire side!
The next opportunity Kennedy gets at AFL level, I'd like it to be in a tagging role in the midfield.
The next opportunity Kennedy gets at AFL level, I'd like it to be in a tagging role in the midfield.
Future planning, the next Ed?
I must admit, I think long term this is potentially the best role for a Kennedy or SoJ type as I can see the other mids going past them if they naturally improve! Further both are capable in medium forward roles if needed, very Ed like!
Future planning, the next Ed?
I must admit, I think long term this is potentially the best role for a Kennedy or SoJ type as I can see the other mids going past them if they naturally improve! Further both are capable in medium forward roles if needed, very Ed like!
Correct. Not everyone is/will be a genuine offensively driven midfielder at AFL level. We need role players all over the park, but certainly in the midfield. eg. Ed Curnow types. Give Kennedy a role at the next level. I get a feeling he could be a better role player, a dog chasing a bone type.
Correct. Not everyone is/will be a genuine offensively driven midfielder at AFL level. We need role players all over the park, but certainly in the midfield. eg. Ed Curnow types. Give Kennedy a role at the next level. I get a feeling he could be a better role player, a dog chasing a bone type.
I agree, Kennedy and SoJ both have a footy brain and I suspect the discipline of tagging suits their focused way of going about stuff!
Plus, if or when we manage to get on a roll they are players who can also make themselves dangerous and hit the scoreboard!
Given recent insights into Jones and how he goes about preparation, I wonder if he could tag someone like Dangerfield or Bontempelli, he's got the speed and strength, when he was rucking at VFL level he looked OK in traffic?
Kennedy needs to work on his endurance base if he's going to tag. Needs to get to more contests and stay with the top players, none of whom you'd call less than elite athletes.
I've seen a bit from Setterfield to suggest he could be handy. Kicks the ball to smart places, and involved in a lot of scores. Still needs to tidy disposal, work on pace and agility.
I agree, Kennedy and SoJ both have a footy brain and I suspect the discipline of tagging suits their focused way of going about stuff!
Plus, if or when we manage to get on a roll they are players who can also make themselves dangerous and hit the scoreboard!
Given recent insights into Jones and how he goes about preparation, I wonder if he could tag someone like Dangerfield or Bontempelli, he's got the speed and strength, when he was rucking at VFL level he looked OK in traffic?
Yes Jones at VFL level when rucking was like another mid.
Kennedy needs to work on his endurance base if he's going to tag. Needs to get to more contests and stay with the top players, none of whom you'd call less than elite athletes.
I've seen a bit from Setterfield to suggest he could be handy. Kicks the ball to smart places, and involved in a lot of scores. Still needs to tidy disposal, work on pace and agility.
Yes Kennedy does need to improve his endurance. One way to find out what's required, go with the best of the best to take you from contest to contest time and again.
Setterfield makes good decisions and his disposal around the ground is good. However, he really has the yips when it comes to kicking at goal. In his career he has had 9 or 10 attempts for 1 goal. Look at him and he doesn't want to be taking the shot: he tenses up very noticeably.
Nor is he alone. He (and more than a few others) should be spending a lot of time with the kicking coach kicking for goal until he gets it right.
He also needs at least another pre-season to get as fit as he needs to be. He is more on the pace now, but he is nowhere near his best as yet.
Kennedy also needs a lot more work, especially on his endurance and intensity. If he can tackle like Cripps, he will be so much better as a player. His kicking appears to have improved quite a lot, but he also tenses up when kicking at the big sticks.
One of the things I liked a lot about Cripps last weekend was that he wanted to take shots at goal, a big difference to the past. He not only took the responsibility, but he was clearly comfortable about it.
If there is a question about Patrick Kerr, it is about his kicking. He is very much a confidence player whose kicking can be really good or terrible. When he got his senior games last year he really had the yips.
For mine Kennedy just doesn't do enough. Had a chance in the game against Essendon when conditions were greasy and it called for contested ball, working hard inside....especially when Cripps was getting tagged out of it....and he got 8 possessions! Setterfield just looks like a better player than Kennedy at the moment but yes, his goal kicking needs work but he's not alone.
For mine Kennedy just doesn't do enough. Had a chance in the game against Essendon when conditions were greasy and it called for contested ball, working hard inside....especially when Cripps was getting tagged out of it....and he got 8 possessions! Setterfield just looks like a better player than Kennedy at the moment but yes, his goal kicking needs work but he's not alone.
x2....Kennedy needs a new position, he could be a good half back flanker IMO...
If we bring in another couple of established mids and Deluca fires up then his days on ball are numbered IMO but he hasnt that luxury of being tried in different positions
like some other players. His past has been injury hit and I think he needs to get away from the onball stuff and find a fixed position.
Setterfield is very promising, can win his own ball and just needs some more weight and games, goal kicking isnt a worry IMO, just need him to get slicker
by hand and foot so he really hurts teams when he gets the ball. Needs to start in the middle with Cripps and learn from the best.....
As each week passes Setterfield reminds me more and more of Jab Watson, when Setterfield gains weight and strength he will play very similar game style!
As each week passes Setterfield reminds me more and more of Jab Watson, when Setterfield gains weight and strength he will play very similar game style!
Would need some major buttock development in the preseason! :)
Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
Setters is showing more than Kennedy? When was that?
Must have missed it....
A fit Kennedy is far from slow. he can play inside or outside and play forward....and he's a footballer.
And he can hit the door of a barn unlike Dow who misses the entire side!
Setterfield has played 8 games this year and averages almost 17 touches a game.
Kennedy has played 2 games and averages 12...with a high of only 16.
So yeah, you missed it.
As for the side, you simply don't pick your 22 most talented players.
You pick 22 players that give you the best chance of winning.
Otherwise you might have 19 midfielders and 3 key backs.
Look, i was pushing for Kennedy to get a game as much as the next guy, but he just didn't deliver. He isn't fit enough, fast enough, or physical enough to demand a spot in the best 22 at this stage.
Setterfield has played 8 games this year and averages almost 17 touches a game.
Kennedy has played 2 games and averages 12...with a high of only 16.
So yeah, you missed it.
As for the side, you simply don't pick your 22 most talented players.
You pick 22 players that give you the best chance of winning.
Otherwise you might have 19 midfielders and 3 key backs.
Look, i was pushing for Kennedy to get a game as much as the next guy, but he just didn't deliver. He isn't fit enough, fast enough, or physical enough to demand a spot in the best 22 at this stage.
Ah, but how unlike you to miss the point - equality of opportunity.
Dow, Setterfield, LOB gifted games (particularly the last two) even when the contribute jack...Dow's kicking is so bad he should play 2s until it is fixed.
Kennedy gets left in the seconds for an eternity (even when Setters out), then dumped after 2 games, 1` of which everyone was utterly dismal....
Thirty possession last week yet will be overlooked again....
Ah, but how unlike you to miss the point - equality of opportunity.
Dow, Setterfield, LOB gifted games (particularly the last two) even when the contribute jack...Dow's kicking is so bad he should play 2s until it is fixed.
Kennedy gets left in the seconds for an eternity (even when Setters out), then dumped after 2 games, 1` of which everyone was utterly dismal....
Thirty possession last week yet will be overlooked again....
Equality of opportunity is a lovely phrase.
Perhaps you could work out what that means exactly.
If Kreuzer is playing well in the 1's. and Phillips and Lobbe are getting BOGs in the 2's, do we pick them all to play ones? They are the best performed players after all and deserve a game yes? No. 1 spot (2 at best available) and until they outperform Kreuzer, they could win the VFL B+F, but won't get a game.
Same thing with Kennedy.
Bigger bodied, inside mid position
1. Cripps
2. Curnow
3. Setterfield
4. Kennedy.
We can not have 4 in the same side, so we take the best 3.
We do not pick Kennedy ahead of Lob, Dow or Mitch McGovern.....because they play a different role!
If Kennedy can turn into a small forward, he might get a game.
If Kennedy can become an elite runner with sublime foot skills, he might get a game.
Based on his current output, he does not push anyone out of the side playing a similar role.
Geddit?
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