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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5431 –
Do with your last chance whatever you like. I don’t want it and never asked for it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5432 –
I will say, however, that it is perfectly reasonable to note that the ambulance services and hospitals wouldn’t be so stressed if they didn’t need to deal with the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Claiming a personal veto over comment is not on.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5433 –
Sadly this pandemic has turned a few obsessed to the point that anyone with a different view is seen as no longer deserving of any respect regardless of there situation. I explained my personal situation  which my daughter welfare was in immediate danger and I made no reference to Covid yet a
cowardly poster who has gotten ahead of himself over this virus thinks it’s acceptable to sarcastically reply and turn the situation into some sort of joke.

This is never on and against everything I stand for. Comments like that are very easily made when you’re hiding behind the security of your computer screen.

Family is a no go zone. It’s a line you don’t cross. Anyone with an ounce of respect knows that.

I’m going to leave the site.

Will miss the majority of posters but some people have got the better of me and I prefer to do other things they get worked up over morons who think they know it all.

Good health to all and Go blues.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5434 –
None of my comments were about you or your family. They were related to the topic in this thread. At no stage did you suggest your family had any issue with Covid. You still haven’t. If you had a personal stake in the topic, you should have declared it or perhaps avoided this thread.

Don’t try to claim I made light of your family’s medical issues. I didn’t.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5435 –
Quote from: DJC – on
That's the thing isn't it; a choice between getting somewhere close to normal or staying as we are now.  I know where I'd rather be.

I wasn't sure whether it would be constitutional but all Victorian members of parliament have to produce evidence of vaccination before they can attend parliament now.

Not true by what was stated at the daily announcement by the Victorian government today. MP’s/parliament politicians have only recently been given a mandate to be vaccinated with the first dose by the 22nd of this month. It might be a requirement to stretch this by a week to the 29th of October. The media had plenty to ask as to why every other essential worker needs the first dose by the 15th of October. “Different settings and we handle the members of parliament in our own way through discussions” was the response. Even the CHO Brett Sutton had nothing to add to the line of questions. You would think there would be a common standard for such an issue. Fact is that there are political members that are not vaccinated and still attending parliament for duties by what the authorities have stated Friday.
This digital world is too much for us insects to understand.

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Reply #5437 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Sadly this pandemic has turned a few obsessed to the point that anyone with a different view is seen as no longer deserving of any respect regardless of there situation. I explained my personal situation  which my daughter welfare was in immediate danger and I made no reference to Covid yet a
cowardly poster who has gotten ahead of himself over this virus thinks it’s acceptable to sarcastically reply and turn the situation into some sort of joke.

This is never on and against everything I stand for. Comments like that are very easily made when you’re hiding behind the security of your computer screen.

Family is a no go zone. It’s a line you don’t cross. Anyone with an ounce of respect knows that.

I’m going to leave the site.

Will miss the majority of posters but some people have got the better of me and I prefer to do other things they get worked up over morons who think they know it all.

Good health to all and Go blues.

Shawny, I really do understand, and, yep, family and matters of the heart are a no go zone. But your contributions are deeply appreciated by most. Please don't allow someone lacking empathy to determine your involvement... then the d1ckhead wins. Focus on the value of the sincere posters... so many folks here have much to offer in different ways.

This site would be poorer without you. I and others here get that whoever crossed the line actually caused hurt to you and yours. Fck 'em. Give it another lash, mate. You and this site are worth it. Sadly, there are too many insensitive pr1cks in this world. I'm positive the vast majority of folks here would welcome you back, wholeheartedly. And with respect to you and yours.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #5438 –
Shawny, Just to echo Cap and Baggers thoughts, you will be missed if you leave the forum and you are a quality poster and united in Navy Blue with us all. Swimming against the tide isn't easy and we need diverse opinion not just on the forum but everywhere else too and you always crack in hard with your thoughts so I hope you reconsider...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5439 –
Yep, I definitely agree family matters trump all. When our boy through no fault of his own throws us into a 14 day isolation because scumbag antivaxxers make it their mission to spread a lethal disease, it pisses me off.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5440 –
This sort of situation is playing out all over the state, it's basically what the ICU nurses warned about in their union's recent media campaign, the risk of regret weighs far heavier on one side of this argument than the other, and nurses suffer when at the last moment patients flip but by then it's all too late.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #5441 –
As an aside, I heard virologist/epidemiologist talk on the radio two nights back, it was live talk on a BBC World channel, and I haven't found an internet copy yet but if I do I will post it.

They said most of the debate lacks a critical 3rd perspective and that has allowed a fantasy to persist, the fantasy is that vaccines kill.

Now at first this seems controversial, because we all know people can have severe reactions, but it is really coming from a very broad 3rd perspective. Statistically the truth is the vaccines save about a 1000 for every 1 they hurt! Where does that come from? Well COVID kills about 1000 out of every million, (In Western economies) while vaccine reactions kill 1 out of every million while saving about 970, vaccines aren't perfect, they won't save everybody, but statistically that is how effective the vaccines are, and it's almost unprecedented in history.

What about the 1?

The virologist/epidemiologist started their analysis from this perspective. It's sad that people die from a vaccine reaction, but it's highly likely that people who suffer badly or die from an adverse Sars-CoV-2 vaccine reaction are highly susceptible to the very same from the real Sars-CoV-2 virus. It is also highly likely that just like the common cold we will all get Sars-CoV-2 at some stage. So it's far better to issue the vaccines in controlled conditions, monitor the vaccine recipients in controlled conditions, try to identify and assist the 1 early, than to allow Sars-CoV-2 to run wild and kill the 970 that the vaccines would have saved.

This seems like a very sensible and reasonable position.

I definitely haven't related all the critical points as I was listening late at night, but you can see the general perspective this virology specialist was coming from. It makes sense.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #5442 –
The Conversation is getting very very good at responding to various social media memes and misinformation in real time.

No, COVID Vaccines don't stay in your body for years!

The sooner this real information gets out in the public, the better.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #5443 –
I posted that yesterday but it bears repeating. I love the tweet from Dr Esther Choo, the whole series of tweets being:

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I’m having so many conversations about the concern that vaccines interfere with cells’ genetic material but no one seems freaked out that viruses jump right in there and make our cells little virus factories.

I mean, this description from medical news-net: “This typically occurs by the virus inserting its genetic material in host cells, co-opting the proteins to create viral replicates, until the cell bursts from the high volume of new viral particles.”

Vaccines are so polite and elegant in comparison: “if you would, ma’am, make a scrap of spike protein to present to your immune system for its consideration? I’ll see myself out now.” “Be well… Be well.”
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5444 –
2nd dose done.

Still no 2nd head, no ability to see in the dark, or green glow.