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Would any of the above have helped in this instance?

Would any of the above have helped avoid the Bourke street incident??

I don't think it would have unless I dont have the full background of this individual.

Would any of the above have helped in this instance?

Would any of the above have helped avoid the Bourke street incident??

I don't think it would have unless I dont have the full background of this individual.

Cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't...


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/cop-brett-mccormick-pleads-not-guilty-to-reckless-conduct-over-highspeed-chase/news-story/694824e0277d80a55ab4ca46a82996f1

Cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't...


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/cop-brett-mccormick-pleads-not-guilty-to-reckless-conduct-over-highspeed-chase/news-story/694824e0277d80a55ab4ca46a82996f1

The court was told police had no policy of ramming cars in order to end a pursuit.

Well there's an easy fix.

Create a policy in which its allowed and this magically goes away.

Give police the power to stop these things without the worry of getting sued and an incident like this disappears.

Shawny, I have highlighted this point in bold to try and understand something.

Are people born bad eggs, or do they become that way?
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Thanks for the Great discussion folks.

Re: nature v nurture
Contemporary science examines nature and nurture, and how they interact. Subsequently predicting human behavior can be very complex.
There are a multitude of predisposing (I.e low intellect), precipitating (parental separation), perpetuating (poverty), and then protective (social support) factors that play a role.
Whilst some factors predict behaviour in a reliable manner, others don't. Arguably the most extreme of these is drug use. Of course, drugs are reliably variable in structure and therefore effect. Further, they are produced by criminals with no regard for standardization. Indeed new concoctions hit the market continually. The way I see it, human behavior will become less predictable whilst this scourge of drugs continues. Aside from this, for predictions to be made, an individual needs to be assessed. This costs. Government is not in spending mode when it comes to some public services (as stretched public servants will know).

There's no doubt this event is unbelievably tragic. The answers, however, are likely to require more resources than are on hand. My 2cents worth anyway.

PS. Don't know what I did, but I managed to stuff up the format ooops

Saw program on TV about a year ago on nature v. nurture. To cut a long story short, some people are born with proclivity to be bad and if these folk are subjected to poor or abusive upbringing they will likely become bad. Children born without the proclivities are much less likely to become bad even if their upbringing is bad. Also people with bad proclivity are much less likely to become bad if they get good upbringing.