Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

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Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

Reply #60 – June 24, 2020, 09:09:45 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on June 24, 2020, 02:00:05 pm

So he could have potentially infected others?, not sure how Dr Sutton gets to commentate on McKenna's health status when he isnt his personal GP.

I think that Sutton is eminently qualified to comment on what a positive COVID-19 test means. He was asked about negative, positive, negative test results and he said that the most likely explanation is that McKenna has just recovered from the virus. I doubt whether a GP would be able to do any better with a asymptomatic patient and would be relying solely on test results.

Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

Reply #61 – June 24, 2020, 09:22:31 pm

Either way they shouldn't be using this as a vehicle to try and discredit testing. Two positive results, he's on stand down, whether or not he returns a negative now the outcome is the same, and going so public with a negative test is a bit absurd. Err on the side of caution state hes in lockdown until its safe and get on with it.

Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

Reply #62 – June 25, 2020, 08:25:37 am

Quote from: flyboy77 – on June 24, 2020, 09:05:05 pm

And yet the inventory of the PCR 'test' himself (Kary Mulllis, an out and out genius, died last August RIP) questions its efficacy given it was never designed for such a purpose.

You mean like finding an alternative use for Hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID-19, something it wasn't invented for?

Commentators can't arbitrarily pick and choose the facts that suit a case, the personal opinions are largely irrelevant. Whatever someone thinks the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and for virus detection PCR is as accurate as any, like it or lump it if the evidence doesn't support an opinion it just has to be accepted.

Lots of inventions get used for things they were never intended for, applications that never even existed at the time they were first invented, many end use applications were and are just discoveries by accident. For example satellites designed to detect nuclear tests on earth or in space found the first gamma ray burst coming from distant galaxies. Radiation detectors used in nuclear weapons labs were re-task to become MRI and CT scanners in hospitals, a spread spectrum frequency hoping system designed to defeat radar countermeasures became the basis for the WiFi we all use today. The list goes on and on and on!

Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

Reply #63 – June 25, 2020, 10:14:03 am

@LP
In fact drug companies hold patents on many compounds that they have yet to find a use for. So in many case they look for where compounds could be used rather finding cures for a particular condition.

Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19

Reply #64 – June 25, 2020, 11:25:56 am

Quote from: cookie2 – on June 25, 2020, 10:14:03 am

@LP
In fact drug companies hold patents on many compounds that they have yet to find a use for. So in many case they look for where compounds could be used rather finding cures for a particular condition.

Yes, there is a lot of debate around this.

The problem is more a discussion of the lax nature of some patent office rather than the validity of the practise.

I think it's reasonable for drug companies to find new and broad uses for their drugs, as long as they patent each one as the discovery happens, and not retrospectively reference some very loose patent from decades ago! Because what happens is they tend to allow 3rd parties to make the discovery then sue those using existing out of scope broad patents.

I've experienced this first hand, some EU and Asian patent offices are very very generous to the local applicants, they award patents so broad it is virtually institutionalised patent trolling. I've known of patents being awarded in some jurisdictions for products that have been highly visible in the global marketplace for 30 years. That's unambiguous prior art yet a patent still gets award!