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So it's good culture or development to not reward consistent VFl performances week in and week out?

Picking and choosing your battles here?

Quote from: MilkIt – on May 25, 2015, 06:24:58 am

Any idea what part of his game they don't rate? They must think he is a terrible footballer if players like Watson and Bootsma get more than 11 games to prove themselves.

Obviously I don't know the whole story but I don't like the sound of it, especially if he's contracted for another year.

Look, as I say it's just second-hand and I always take these stories with a grain of salt but his speed and foot skills were the two reasons given. Also as far as I'm aware it was only one individual in particular who leveled the criticism.

Pretty depressing I would imagine for the kid.

We lost the last 4 games by plus 70 points.

Is that an overly simplistic view of it though?

We saw what happened when we chose that way of thinking about whether or not Watson should play vs Liam Jones, and sure, Watson gets the opportunity because he had averaged 3 goals a week in the VFL, but the results were not great.

We can all believe he deserves an opportunity, but if he wasnt playing to instruction, its only right the senior coach gets to use a benchmark for senior footy.

Depending on how you sit, this can be an argument all day every day, but at worst the senior coach must have the right to dictate these terms.  Given Laidler's tweet we know that he likely fought opposition from the playing group from day 1.  That was never going to end well.

Given our culture of the tail wagging the dog, this is a massive issue for us.

Yes it is..... very Simple... its the only KPI that matters. Do we need to complicate it more than that?

Graham isn't meeting KPi's... please. Who in out team on Friday night, or the previous week, or the week before that is meeting their KPI's. We are losing by 70 points, there is a whole lot of players not performing. To say Nick Graham isn't meeting his performance criteria in being BOG every week in the VFL whilst our seniors are getting thoroughly rogered for fun every Friday night is entirely laughable.

Nick Graham isn't our saviour. He may be a little slow and not found his feet at AFL level yet, but he hasn't had a decent crack at it. We talk about player development and recruiting being poor. Well here is a guy we picked in the late second round, who seems to be a pretty good midfielder and growing each week in the VFL.

Give him a crack. If he doesnt make it, move him one. We are cactus this year anyway.

We are getting belted by X points, is not the reason to take out a bloke who is doing what is expected of him.

I can't Imagine there are too many of these guys around.

If i was to hazard a guess, our clearances and Contested possessions are pretty good and strong, in which is Graham's role. We are getting chopped on the outside, which I don't think Graham would fix. But with Gibbs, Judd and Mick out, he'll get his turn.