Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #105 – July 01, 2016, 05:21:06 pm Re the speed thingy... we have no amigos!And this SOJ thingy... can't wait to hear the roar of the crowd every time he goes near the ball. Ala one of the amigos, Eddie. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #106 – July 01, 2016, 09:18:06 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on July 01, 2016, 04:51:35 pmMe too.A very specific number of posters are available tomorrow at the ground. 1893 or something.Perhaps thats how many members we want for the rest of the year?Pretty sure it is 1864....a significant number for the Carlton Football Club. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #107 – July 01, 2016, 11:07:25 pm Quote from: Dominator_7 – on July 01, 2016, 01:35:48 pmCan you imagine to collective orgasm from Carlton fans when Jack kicks his first goal.It ll be like an exploding custard factory lolThat moment requires McAvaney commentary lol The winner, after the siren, tight on the boundary, 50m out on the wrong side for a right footer. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #108 – July 01, 2016, 11:21:09 pm Quote from: kruddler – on July 01, 2016, 09:18:06 pmPretty sure it is 1864....a significant number for the Carlton Football Club. I suppose that makes more sense. Lol.I deleted the text. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #109 – July 02, 2016, 10:03:45 am Just watched that classic game v The filth they have on the CFC website.How much straighter did we look with Fevola running out from FF. Those who say traditional FF are no longer needed just need to watch that.Break out of the backline a couple of handballs then a pass to a leading forward on the 50. Then BANG. How straight was his kicking, you forget just how good he was. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #110 – July 02, 2016, 10:19:15 am His set shot kicking was a little wayward early on - it was very reliable in his middle and later career - he definitely evolved into a beautiful set shot. The problem, as I see it, is three fold :1. Good Fev / Bad Fev2. His level of quality was so high in the end, that he was / is very difficult to replace. 3. We became a little lazy and relied on him too much - so in the early days, when he was well held, we had no other decent options - this changed a little with Eddie etc., but by the time they really came on, Fev was gone. EDIT : And I should also add, somewhat paradoxically, that we became more potent and less predictable in attack once he left, and possibly also had higher average scores, although I'd need to confirm that before stating it as fact. That Ratts, he was some coach - did a great job re configuring our forward line for the post Fev era. Quote Selected Last Edit: July 02, 2016, 10:24:20 am by PaulP
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #111 – July 02, 2016, 10:56:00 am Quote from: BluePhantom – on July 02, 2016, 10:03:45 amJust watched that classic game v The filth they have on the CFC website.How much straighter did we look with Fevola running out from FF. Those who say traditional FF are no longer needed just need to watch that.Break out of the backline a couple of handballs then a pass to a leading forward on the 50. Then BANG. How straight was his kicking, you forget just how good he was. Fev would still be potent today if he had been playing at senior level. He had an excellent combination of traits: enough pace to break contact more often than not, a kick that was a weapon from outside 50 m, the self belief that he could do the job, the ability to win the ball on the ground as well as in the air and a nice pair of hands. An open forward 50 and a couple of smart smalls running down to assist (not to mention getting the ball out of the centre!) and we look a different setup.Our problems in the day were considerable: lack of skill to get it to him and too much focus on Fev with too few alternatives are the ones that stick out to me.We did do a very good job of covering Fev when he left, but Ratten never really had the cattle to be a real contender (no matter what the club thought). But a rampart Fev would still kick 50 goals per season today at 34. What a pity he couldn't hold his life together. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #112 – July 02, 2016, 11:03:24 am Quote from: BluePhantom – on July 02, 2016, 10:03:45 amJust watched that classic game v The filth they have on the CFC website.How much straighter did we look with Fevola running out from FF. Those who say traditional FF are no longer needed just need to watch that.Break out of the backline a couple of handballs then a pass to a leading forward on the 50. Then BANG. How straight was his kicking, you forget just how good he was.That's one of my favourite games... ended a massive losing streak following the Pagan era, close to the absolute low point for the club.Pretty sure Fev played on Harry O? One of his better games... when he was good he was very,very good. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #113 – July 02, 2016, 11:14:05 am Just watched the silvagni video, brought a tear to the eye. Again. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #114 – July 02, 2016, 11:18:24 am Hoping to see Gibba looking a lot more like the 2008 version next year. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #115 – July 02, 2016, 02:59:58 pm Quote from: BluePhantom – on July 02, 2016, 10:03:45 amJust watched that classic game v The filth they have on the CFC website.How much straighter did we look with Fevola running out from FF. Those who say traditional FF are no longer needed just need to watch that.Break out of the backline a couple of handballs then a pass to a leading forward on the 50. Then BANG. How straight was his kicking, you forget just how good he was.Watch the same thing today , similar thoughts, when you compare some vision from back in those day today, we really labour for goals at times. Nice to see the skills , the long goals were great to see as well. Hope we can find another dominant forward in the future. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #116 – July 02, 2016, 07:14:59 pm About time Casboult took hold of a game... Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #117 – July 02, 2016, 07:24:15 pm Quote from: Baggers – on July 02, 2016, 07:14:59 pmAbout time Casboult took hold of a game...Perfect weather for it, not too cold, not damp, perfect football conditions. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 15: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #118 – July 03, 2016, 10:33:08 am If you look through our team, how many of them currently or even in the past have a reputation of being able to "take a game on" Murphy has , Gibbs has, maybe Simmo, but after that The old Daisey for sure, we have a good bunch of battlers who play above them selves at times , but none that grab a game by the neck ala Kernas , Whitnall, SOS , Fev, they demanded the ball and bought others into,the game. The last one on our list to do that was WaiteThe current crop are being groomed as the ultimate team players , and great in theory, but look at the top teams , they have that and the dominat players because if the team miss fires there is a go to situation where the individuals can lead and rekindle the fire. Quote Selected