Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #30 – August 30, 2021, 02:00:15 am Carlton vs Gold CoastProbably the most disheartening loss of the year and one of the reasons David Teague is history. Such a huge disappointment.Trends:[1] There were 7 voters this week. There were 14 for the same round last year. There were 14 voters last week. I think that probably shows just how turned off our supporters are at the moment.[2] The rating of 6.14 wasn’t quite a disaster, but it said everything. That represents little more than an E. Poor, against a team that got thrashed previously and subsequently.[3] We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more. That compared to five for the previous game.[4] 13 players managed a mention.[5] Nobody got votes from everybody this week. Not one.[6] Congratulations to Nick Newman for being BOG, his first of the year.Votes:Newman, Nicholas 246Weitering, Jacob 189Walsh, Sam 136Jones, Liam 83Kennedy, Matthew 79Curnow, Edward 70Honey, Joshua 35Cripps, Patrick 26Martin, Jack 26Newnes, Jack 13de Koning, Tom 9Stocker, Liam 4Plowman, Lachlan 4Progressive Votes:5431 - Walsh, Sam (0)2848 - Weitering, Jacob (0)1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)1504 - Saad, Adam (0)1457 - Jones, Liam (0)1445 - Curnow, Edward (0)1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)936 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)742 - Docherty, Sam (0)593 - Betts, Eddie (0)540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)429 - Dow, Patrick (0)315 - William, Zac (0)302 - Stocker, Liam (0)302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)195 - Newnes, Jack (0)186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)175 - de Koning, Tom (0)163 - Martin, Jack (0)120 - Owies, Matthew (0)114 - Cuningham, David (0)107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)103 - Murphy, Marc (0)82 - Fisher, Zac (0)74 - Honey, Joshua (0)74 - Casboult, Levi (0)46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)35 - Williamson, Tom (0)20 - Setterfield, Will (0)8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)First and second are set in stone. Pretty close behind them. Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #31 – August 30, 2021, 02:02:52 am Carlton vs Port Adelaide:One great half (1.75 quarters, anyway), and the rest doesn't require thought. Disgraceful. Unprofessional.Trends:[1] There were 8 voters this week, a slight improvement.[2] The rating of 5.25 was very poor. That represents F+, almost.[3] We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more. [4] 9 players managed a mention. That is very poor and so unlike your normal efforts.[5] Nobody got votes from everybody this week. For the 2nd week in a row![6] Sam Walsh was BOG. Until ¾ time, he was easily the best on the ground, but he had 1 possession in the last quarter.Votes:Walsh, Sam 248Weitering, Jacob 195Kennedy, Matthew 180de Koning, Tom 53Honey, Joshua 38Saad, Adam 30Murphy, Marc 30Curnow, Edward 8Durdin, Corey 8[Progressive Voting:5678 - Walsh, Sam (0)3043 - Weitering, Jacob (0)1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)1534 - Saad, Adam (0)1457 - Jones, Liam (0)1453 - Curnow, Edward (0)1116 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)742 - Docherty, Sam (0)593 - Betts, Eddie (0)540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)429 - Dow, Patrick (0)315 - William, Zac (0)302 - Stocker, Liam (0)302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)227 - de Koning, Tom (0)199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)195 - Newnes, Jack (0)186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)163 - Martin, Jack (0)133 - Murphy, Marc (0)120 - Owies, Matthew (0)114 - Cuningham, David (0)112 - Honey, Joshua (0)107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)82 - Fisher, Zac (0)74 - Casboult, Levi (0)46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)35 - Williamson, Tom (0)20 - Setterfield, Will (0)8 - Durdin, Corey (0)8 - McDonald, Oscar (0) Quote Selected Last Edit: September 03, 2021, 02:47:23 pm by crashlander
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #32 – September 03, 2021, 03:12:26 pm Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS.Few of our honourable losses were less honourable than this one. We really put it to GWS for all but a few minutes on either side of half time. But that wasn't enough. Again. Heartbreak. Trends:[1] The voters weren’t tempted to make much of an appearance. There were 9 this week, which is not our worst. However, we get double that number and more when we’re winning.[2] We put up a much better effort and weren’t far away from a real contender. That wasn’t bad for half a team (or less). The rating, 8.04, reflected that. That represents a C.[3] 4 players managed 100 votes of more, which is truly respectful. Last week we struggled to get 3.[4] 3 players managed to get votes from everyone, which is a considerable improvement over the last couple of weeks. And another missed by a single voter.[5] 12 players managed a mention this round, which is also an improvement. Unfortunately, there were a number of these players who contributed very little. [6] Congratulations to Ed Curnow for his BOG effort this week. 4 goals from a guy who doesn’t play as a forward says a lot, and not all of it good. This was his 2nd BOG for the year.[7] Sam Walsh managed to complete an amazing season. He was only not in the top three vote getters three times for the entire season. Jacob Weitering was similarly impressive. Only thrice did he miss being in the top eight.Votes:Curnow, Edward 379Newman, Nicholas 226Walsh, Sam 217Weitering, Jacob 163de Koning, Tom 90Stocker, Liam 63Kennedy, Matthew 36Betts, Eddie 14Casboult, Levi 14Saad, Adam 5Cripps, Patrick 5Kemp, Brodie 5Fogarty, Lachlan 5Final Cumulative Votes:5895 - Walsh, Sam (217)3205 - Weitering, Jacob (163)1832 - Curnow, Edward (380)1634 - Cripps, Patrick (5)1538 - Saad, Adam (5)1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)1457 - Jones, Liam (0)1152 - Kennedy, Matthew (37)1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)765 - Newman, Nicholas (226)742 - Docherty, Sam (0)607 - Betts, Eddie (14)429 - Dow, Patrick (0)365 - Stocker, Liam (64)318 - de Koning, Tom (91)315 - William, Zac (0)302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)294 - Fogarty, Lachlan (5)199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)195 - Newnes, Jack (0)186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)163 - Martin, Jack (0)133 - Murphy, Marc (0)120 - Owies, Matthew (0)114 - Cuningham, David (0)112 - Honey, Joshua (0)107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)88 - Casboult, Levi (14)82 - Fisher, Zac (0)46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)35 - Williamson, Tom (0)20 - Setterfield, Will (0)8 - Durdin, Corey (0)8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)5 - Kemp, Brodie (5) Quote Selected Last Edit: September 04, 2021, 07:17:12 pm by crashlander
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #33 – September 03, 2021, 07:15:48 pm What a superb job you've done crash. It's always a well organized, timely, objective, good humoured thread. I'm grateful to you 👏🏽 and suggest you nominate for CFC board 😉 Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #34 – September 03, 2021, 08:26:19 pm Great job as always Crash. I am sure everyone here really appreciates your hard work putting this thread together.👍 Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #35 – September 03, 2021, 09:22:15 pm Fun Fact.Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.Machine! Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #36 – September 04, 2021, 06:08:17 pm Thanks Crash - appreciate your efforts! Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #37 – September 04, 2021, 06:26:34 pm Quote from: kruddler – on September 03, 2021, 09:22:15 pmFun Fact.Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.Machine!He is top 5 in the comp already. Will probably be number 1 next year. Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #38 – September 07, 2021, 03:23:23 pm Thanks Crash for all your work. Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #39 – September 07, 2021, 04:25:25 pm I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.Surely somebody is taking the piss! Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #40 – September 07, 2021, 07:29:34 pm Quote from: LP – on September 07, 2021, 04:25:25 pmI don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.Surely somebody is taking the piss! If it is Buckenara's position, then he has even less idea than Kane Cornes, and that is saying something. Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #41 – September 07, 2021, 07:41:13 pm It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year? Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #42 – September 07, 2021, 09:12:29 pm Quote from: crashlander – on September 07, 2021, 07:41:13 pmIt says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?Causation or correlation.....Our club is a mess.As a result it puts extra stress on the players, albeit mentally, not physically.However, could the mental stress translate to physical injuries?Mens Sana in corpore sanoMore injuries this year than just about any other, more stress on the players and the club too.So....causation or correlation? Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #43 – September 08, 2021, 09:45:49 am Quote from: LP – on September 07, 2021, 04:25:25 pmI don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.Surely somebody is taking the piss! Buckenara had Walsh in his top ten for the 2018 draft but rated four or five players ahead of him. He won't concede that Walsh is an A-Grader until/unless his top four or five are and/or he's forced to do so by Walsh's overwhelming accolades.Buckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion Quote Selected
Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021 Reply #44 – September 08, 2021, 11:10:54 am Quote from: DJC – on September 08, 2021, 09:45:49 amBuckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion He's not a bad bloke, I've had quite a few chats with him down at the Frankston VFL ground where he is/was the venue manager, not sure if he still is.But I think he's missed the whole board on that throw, some of it might be the doing of his editor, the old journo trick of adding some controversy to boost readers. If he is still around next time I get to a game at Frankston I'll ask him! Quote Selected
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