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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #150 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
I know H and Charlie get smashed continuously when going for mark but I’ve noticed with both of them they seem to be easy to push over Or out wrestle. Neither seems like that big brute Forward.  Whilst of course there are advantages to being more agile to move easier and faster, a bit more being able to stick solid on the spot or in the least make it very difficult for someone to push you aside.

Need Harry to learn from Weitering on how to body opponents.
He is good on the lead and good jumping. Terrible at wrestling. Weitering is the king of wrestling, maybe not quite SOS like, but he'd be next in line.

Charlie is better on the wrestle, but still can be moved too easily.

Our entries I50 need to be better. Walsh and Kennedy are in the top 10 for worst kicks inside 50 in the AFL....and no other team has 2 entries in the top 10, and those 2 have plenty of inside 50's between them.

Kick to our forwards advantage more often and results will come with those 2.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #151 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
#1 is answered by #3.
#2 is because the opposition dont do #3
#4 because of #3
#5 partly because the opposition are better at it, knowing #3.

That all makes sense :)

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #152 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Coaches' votes :

9 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
6 Scott Pendlebury (COLL)
5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
3 George Hewett (CARL)
3 Darcy Cameron (COLL)
2 Jeremy Howe (COLL)
1 Darcy Moore (COLL)
1 Jacob Weitering (CARL)

In a way, I'm super happy for Cripps. He deserves all the awards and success he gets. In another way, I really wish we had others taking votes off him. We had a great patch where we had contributions across the board. We now seem to have gone back to "No Cripps, Walsh, Weitering etc, no Carlton."

Just on this, have a look at the votes and you can see who got what and it shows up a rather big anomoly.
1 - Weitering
1 -  Moore
2 - Howe
3 - Cameron
3 - Hewett
6 - (4+2) - Pendelbury
9 - (5+4) - Cripps
5 - (5+0) - Daicos

One of the coaches voted Daicos bog.
One of the coaches said Daicos wasn't even top 5.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #153 –
On the stats sheet they weren't worlds apart. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #154 –
Carlton conceded 31 points from kick-ins and defensive 50 stoppages against Collingwood. The league average is 12. Their ability to defend the stoppage game is the worst in the competition.

“As a coach, they’re fixable – kick-in goals and defensive 50 stoppages… they should be the easiest thing to tidy up,” Lyon continued.

The Blues rank 17th in the competition for points against from clearance and dead last for points against from defensive 50 stoppages.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #155 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Carlton conceded 31 points from kick-ins and defensive 50 stoppages against Collingwood. The league average is 12. Their ability to defend the stoppage game is the worst in the competition.

“As a coach, they’re fixable – kick-in goals and defensive 50 stoppages… they should be the easiest thing to tidy up,” Lyon continued.

The Blues rank 17th in the competition for points against from clearance and dead last for points against from defensive 50 stoppages.

The various stakeholders in this issue must put their heads together to sort this. Midfield and forward line coaches, Voss, the mids and back 6, development coaches. I've no idea whether this is personnel or system. I'd also be curious to know if this is a recent problem - I've not heard it discussed apart from the last 2/3 weeks.

This is the article :

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-2024-carlton-blues-v-hawthorn-hawks-preview-charlie-curnow-defensive-issues-mini-final-analysis-latest-news/news-story/3cbf209e2f9d188b8b15048077e6eb2a