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Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #120 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Just showed my favourite piece of vision on FC from the Haw game (4 broken tackles and a goal) and they panned to Vossy on the box saying "Oh come on, come on". Damning for the players involved.
The lack of effort was pathetic, Acres, Saad and Weitering looked like they couldnt be bothered turning up much less playing.
You cant coach that and Id have dragged them all, I watched some vision from Fox Footy where Acres called for the ball from a kick in then when under pressure just kicked it along the line where we had one player and the Hawks had about five, the amount of times we just kick the ball without thought and send it to the opposition gift wrapped shows how little the players care or are thinking about the team and its all about the individual.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #121 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
..................., the amount of times we just kick the ball without thought and send it to the opposition gift wrapped shows how little the players care or are thinking about the team and its all about the individual.
In my experience, this happens in a footy club when the whiteants around the club are getting into the the ear of players.

It starts off with the wrong type of people being allowed too much access to the playing group, it raises doubt and breeds discontent, they have people in their ear telling them "it's not their fault", "you deserve better", "you're better than this lot", "they've let you down", the message is always it's somebody else's fault, and that is very damaging to a team dynamic.

Instead of sacrifice, you end up with survival, which is the exact opposite of what a lot of those fringe players need to survive in footy.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #122 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
..................., the amount of times we just kick the ball without thought and send it to the opposition gift wrapped shows how little the players care or are thinking about the team and its all about the individual.
In my experience, this happens in a footy club when the whiteants around the club are getting into the the ear of players.

It starts off with the wrong type of people being allowed too much access to the playing group, it raises doubt and breeds discontent, they have people in their ear telling them "it's not their fault", "you deserve better", "you're better than this lot", "they've let you down", the message is always it's somebody else's fault, and that is very damaging to a team dynamic.

Instead of sacrifice, you end up with survival, which is the exact opposite of what a lot of those fringe players need to survive in footy.
Your leadership group , footy manager have to be on top of that stuff and reassuring players.
 

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #123 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Just showed my favourite piece of vision on FC from the Haw game (4 broken tackles and a goal) and they panned to Vossy on the box saying "Oh come on, come on". Damning for the players involved.
The lack of effort was pathetic, Acres, Saad and Weitering looked like they couldnt be bothered turning up much less playing.
You cant coach that and Id have dragged them all, I watched some vision from Fox Footy where Acres called for the ball from a kick in then when under pressure just kicked it along the line where we had one player and the Hawks had about five, the amount of times we just kick the ball without thought and send it to the opposition gift wrapped shows how little the players care or are thinking about the team and its all about the individual.
If the coach had to drag players for their bad decisions etc, we would have many on the ground. But youre 100% correct.
Which raises another point that is a bug bear of mine, this whole bench nonsense of managed minutes has to stop. When you look at Melbourne's disaster and who was on the bench at the wrong time proved costly. Comes down to conditioning and players ability to endure.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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