Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #150 – April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 am Amazing that the same people that were so outspoken about our issues laying with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #151 – April 13, 2014, 10:14:16 am Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 amAmazing that the same people that were adamant our issues lay with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH.No, I think the problem is with how the players were developed going back 7-8 years.That development is coming to the fore and it will be very very difficult to undo. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #152 – April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 am Or we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #153 – April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 am Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.With that said though, I will always wonder how '11 would have turned out if we had kept Fev. Quote Selected Last Edit: April 13, 2014, 10:19:39 am by LanceRomance
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #154 – April 13, 2014, 10:22:51 am Quote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.Oh, come off it. When Port only had 3 wins in 2011, and 5 wins in 2012, everyone called them a basket case of a club. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #155 – April 13, 2014, 10:25:43 am Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 amAmazing that the same people that were so outspoken about our issues laying with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH.If you're having a crack at me you're wide of the mark PI2C.I've been on about our woeful recruiting for many years, which has been and remains our number one problem in my opinion, along with a delusional and arrogant culture.Appointing an untried coach from the second division of the Eastern Suburbs league with virtually no senior experience, on the basis of his being a club champion, was utter madness, I said so at the time and nothing that happened in Ratten's 5 years in charge convinced me otherwise.He got the gig to appease the supporters, to bring the Carlton back to Carlton, it was insane and the end result of that madness is where we find ourselves now.But by all means sheet the blame for years of neglect and incompetence home to Malthouse if it eases your pain. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #156 – April 13, 2014, 10:26:08 am Quote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:22:51 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.Oh, come off it. When Port only had 3 wins in 2011, and 5 wins in 2012, everyone called them a basket case of a club.'They still had a decent spine with forwards that kicked goals from everywhere. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #157 – April 13, 2014, 10:32:27 am Quote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:26:08 amQuote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:22:51 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.Oh, come off it. When Port only had 3 wins in 2011, and 5 wins in 2012, everyone called them a basket case of a club.'They still had a decent spine with forwards that kicked goals from everywhere.So no credit to Hinkley for turning around their on field fortunes? No credit to Koch for turning around their off field fortunes? It's only because they have a decent spine with forwards who kick goals from everywhere... Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #158 – April 13, 2014, 10:35:15 am Quote from: blue4life – on April 13, 2014, 10:25:43 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 amAmazing that the same people that were so outspoken about our issues laying with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH.If you're having a crack at me you're wide of the mark PI2C.I've been on about our woeful recruiting for many years, which has been and remains our number one problem in my opinion, along with a delusional and arrogant culture.Appointing an untried coach from the second division of the Eastern Suburbs league with virtually no senior experience, on the basis of his being a club champion, was utter madness, I said so at the time and nothing that happened in Ratten's 5 years in charge convinced me otherwise.He got the gig to appease the supporters, to bring the Carlton back to Carlton, it was insane and the end result of that madness is where we find ourselves now.But by all means sheet the blame for years of neglect and incompetence home to Malthouse if it eases your pain.x2 Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #159 – April 13, 2014, 10:36:54 am Quote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:32:27 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:26:08 amQuote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:22:51 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.Oh, come off it. When Port only had 3 wins in 2011, and 5 wins in 2012, everyone called them a basket case of a club.'They still had a decent spine with forwards that kicked goals from everywhere.So no credit to Hinkley for turning around their on field fortunes? No credit to Koch for turning around their off field fortunes? It's only because they have a decent spine with forwards who kick goals from everywhere...We do not have the same problems as Port Adelaide.7 Years ago they were a top side.... where were we 7 years ago? Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #160 – April 13, 2014, 10:37:06 am Quote from: blue4life – on April 13, 2014, 10:25:43 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 amAmazing that the same people that were so outspoken about our issues laying with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH.If you're having a crack at me you're wide of the mark PI2C.No I'm not, that is exactly you....and your x2 Baggers. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #161 – April 13, 2014, 10:41:51 am Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:37:06 amQuote from: blue4life – on April 13, 2014, 10:25:43 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:12:49 amAmazing that the same people that were so outspoken about our issues laying with the previous coach are now adamant that it's the players. The hypocrisy is just a little nauseating TBH.If you're having a crack at me you're wide of the mark PI2C.No I'm not, that is exactly you....and your x2 Baggers.Actually we're trying to point out to you that the issue is much bigger than just the Senior Coach, but you just seem unable to expand your thinking beyond Ratts/MM. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #162 – April 13, 2014, 10:44:32 am Quote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:36:54 amQuote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:32:27 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:26:08 amQuote from: Lappinlappystick – on April 13, 2014, 10:22:51 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on April 13, 2014, 10:16:48 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 13, 2014, 10:15:17 amOr we could have just got Ken Hinkley and we'd be a top four side.Difference being that Ken Hinkley took over a relatively balanced list with effective Key forwards and Key backs not too mention a Selwoodesque captain in Boak.Oh, come off it. When Port only had 3 wins in 2011, and 5 wins in 2012, everyone called them a basket case of a club.'They still had a decent spine with forwards that kicked goals from everywhere.So no credit to Hinkley for turning around their on field fortunes? No credit to Koch for turning around their off field fortunes? It's only because they have a decent spine with forwards who kick goals from everywhere...We do not have the same problems as Port Adelaide.7 Years ago they were a top side.... where were we 7 years ago?Yes, we know where we were 7 years ago. But you'd hope 7 years later that some of the top draft picks would be on top of their games and actually influencing wins by now. FFS! Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #163 – April 13, 2014, 11:06:06 am Obviously mm came to us to top up he's super and helped daisy top he's up too.at the moment he would have to be the worst recruit in the league for the money he is being paid.for all the crap about gut running leadership and disposal he ain't shown crap.should be dropped but that won't happen who is mm going to kick the ball with Quote Selected
Re: RD 4 : BLUES Defeated By Demons (Pathetic & Pitiful Post-Match) Reply #164 – April 13, 2014, 11:11:16 am Quote from: Slugger – on April 13, 2014, 11:06:06 amObviously mm came to us to top up he's super and helped daisy top he's up too.at the moment he would have to be the worst recruit in the league for the money he is being paid.for all the crap about gut running leadership and disposal he ain't shown crap.should be dropped but that won't happen who is mm going to kick the ball withAlso helped Wiley, Laidley and Buttifant with their super as well.They're really earning their dough as well. Quote Selected