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Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #45 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Agree...this will be one of many beatings we have had for the year but this game and the next three are different as we position ourselves for the draft/trade period.
I wouldnt be judging the coach and some players on tonight or the nex three weeks...Barker has his instructions IMO and they might not be to everyone's liking.

Nup. I dont buy that.
We're  just that crape. Its as simple as that. We've tanked before and it doesnt work. You can guarantee that if we did tank, the karma Gods will have us choose another dud.

Christ I wish we'd just take the game on! Run with the pill. Take risks up the guts. We're  just playing it safe around the boundary every single time. Its as boring and predictable as batcrap. Even in the 1st qrt when briss were getting sone, they were playing the right way but there skills killed em. We kicked 5 straight going around the boundary or from their turnovers. I nearly fell off my chair when Dermie mr "expert comments " said this could get ugly for brisbane.
We were on a roll but were playing safe football. Safe wont get us anywhere.
Too little and Way too late. Pull your fingers out boys!!

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #46 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Not much "C" in Adam Simpson " or " Luke Beveridge"  either but plenty of flair and innovation...

Simmo, your right. Beverege? I reckon hes got plenty of it in him.
Too little and Way too late. Pull your fingers out boys!!

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #47 –
Quote from: Dominator_7 – on
There is a base.
Cripps, Menzel, Buckley, Levi, Jaksh, Graham, Doc,
Maybe Clem, Hollman, BB, Whiley, Walsh Fields and DVR
Murphy, Kreuz, Everritt and Gibbs are young enough to still be around in 3-4 years.

Wash your mouth out with soap.........Menzel is useless ::)
Too little and Way too late. Pull your fingers out boys!!

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #48 –
Quote from: Dominator_7 – on
There is a base.
Cripps, Menzel, Buckley, Levi, Jaksh, Graham, Doc,
Maybe Clem, Hollman, Walsh Fields and DVR
Murphy, Kreuz, Everritt and Gibbs are young enough to still be around in 3-4 years.

It's probably an optimist/ pessimist difference in our thinking.
I'm a bit pessimistic at the moment

Menzel can't even make this side...the other players you mention may have a bit to offer but in most cases they are either triers with limitations in their games ......or unrealised potential.
It's a guess with these blokes so you can't lock them in.
Cripps is the only one I feel confident in saying "This guy is going to have a long career."

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #49 –
Quote from: Dominator_7 – on
There is a base.
Cripps, Menzel, Buckley, Levi, Jaksh, Graham, Doc,
Maybe Clem, Hollman, BB, Whiley, Walsh Fields and DVR
Murphy, Kreuz, Everritt and Gibbs are young enough to still be around in 3-4 years.

Cripps, Buckley and Docherty I'll pay and I'd throw in Tuohy, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs and Yarran if he's still at Carlton, but there's not a key position player among the lot of them and it's still only 8 AFL class players from a list of 40 or so.
It's a massive task.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #50 –
Quote from: Lods – on
It's probably an optimist/ pessimist difference in our thinking.
I'm a bit pessimistic at the moment

Menzel can't even make this side...the other players you mention may have a bit to offer but in most cases they are either triers with limitations in their games ......or unrealised potential.
It's a guess with these blokes so you can't lock them in.
Cripps is the only one I feel confident in saying "This guy is going to have a long career."

Menzel was good in the NB's last week and is a quality player compared to many on the list....selections this week were not based on winning the game IMO and both he and Yarran were
conveniently left out for reasons more than form or discipline...

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #51 –
Is that the reason he was dropped in the first place though

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #52 –
I think having a base of 8 is a good starting point.
Its a 66 game rebuild yeah ?
First of 3 drafts / trading periods to build the list coming up.
We ll further add to that base with something like 3 1st round picks (Pick 1 or 2 + compo for Hendo + trade for Yazz)
Carlisle and Aish (one via trade, 1 via PSD)
Jack SOS and Bailey Rice

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #53 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Is that the reason he was dropped in the first place though

No doubt Menzel was given a wake up call by being dropped after lack of effort/poor form in recent weeks but like a good player he repsonded and was easily in our best players for
the NB;s last week and should have been a monty to get picked if we were serious about winning....picking Dick and Ellard over Menzel tells me we were never serious about winning this game....
I'd be expecting Jones and Tutt back for next week just to make sure of the result... ;)

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #54 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Menzel was good in the NB's last week and is a quality player compared to many on the list....selections this week were not based on winning the game IMO and both he and Yarran were
conveniently left out for reasons more than form or discipline...

I think if Menzel and Yarran had've played last week and were dropped this week it might've looked a little suspicious. ;)

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #55 –
Oh my lord. Dick, Jones and Tutt in the same line up. Hell no. Unless Jones plays as a defender, I never want him in any side again. Tanking of the highest order.
This digital world is too much for us insects to understand.

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #56 –
Quote from: Mantis – on
Oh my lord. Dick, Jones and Tutt in the same line up. Hell no. Unless Jones plays as a defender, I never want him in any side again. Tanking of the highest order.

Reckon Jamo or Rowe might have a rest this week(Jones in down back) and Henderson in the weeks after that...need Hendo nice and fit for his medical when Geelong check him out..

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #57 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
No doubt Menzel was given a wake up call by being dropped after lack of effort/poor form in recent weeks but like a good player he repsonded and was easily in our best players for
the NB;s last week and should have been a monty to get picked if we were serious about winning....picking Dick and Ellard over Menzel tells me we were never serious about winning this game....
I'd be expecting Jones and Tutt back for next week just to make sure of the result... ;)

I just don't see the logic though....
Had Menzel played it would have made little difference to the result.
Yarran could have played at his best and it would have made little difference to the result.
Even if we are tanking we don't need to have them playing VFL.

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #58 –
Quote from: Lods – on
I just don't see the logic though....
Had Menzel played it would have made little difference to the result.
Yarran could have played at his best and it would have made little difference to the result.
Even if we are tanking we don't need to have them playing VFL.

You never know.. as Brisbane showed early tonight they are not that good and we had to apply the handbrake IMO to let them take over.....

Re: Round 20: Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Pain

Reply #59 –
Rowe has seriously gone downhill this year.
Close to being delisted at seasons end based on form