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Reply #1425 –
Quote from: Trump
As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism
Seems pretty clear he concedes sharing confidential info with the Russians.  If not, he would have merely stated that there were discussions concerning security issues but no confidential info was disclosed.  The reference to his "absolute right" to do this seems to refer to the exemption POTUS has from the prohibitions in the Espionage Act. 

No denial, either, that he ID'd the city in which the intelligence was gathered.  And the general nature of threats could be discussed without disclosing that detail.  Nor did he deny that the ally stipulated that the intelligence wasn't to be revealed to other countries and the info had therefore been withheld from the actual allies of the US.  Or should I accept that Russia is an ally of the US, or Trump ...

So we actually have no denials from either Trump or McMaster.  McMaster denied merely something that wasn't alleged and Trump denied nothing.

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Reply #1426 –
By the way, if indeed Trump burnt Mossad, that will exacerbate existing suspicions the Israelis might have had that Trump could leak to the Russians and from there Iran might be informed: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4906642,00.html.

I'd imagine that the US would suffer greatly if Mossad ceases to cooperate with the CIA.

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Reply #1427 –
Quote from: Mav – on
By the way, if indeed Trump burnt Mossad, that will exacerbate existing suspicions the Israelis might have had that Trump could leak to the Russians and from there Iran might be informed: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4906642,00.html.

I'd imagine that the US would suffer greatly if Mossad ceases to cooperate with the CIA.

Trump won't suffer if he's burned Mossad, it'll be very quick! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1428 –
True :lol:

By the way, I went to Briebart to get the right-wing nut job perspective on this fiasco and there's nothing on it at all.  Seems it didn't happen. But there is a story about Clinton's emails, a rehash of the conspiracy theory over the death of one of her campaign workers  ;D

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Reply #1430 –
"I'll see your non-existing tapes and raise with my real-life contemporaneous memoranda of our conversations". I reckon Comey might take the pot.

Knowing that Trump acts like an Alzheimer sufferer, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump blasts Comey via Twitter for daring to keep records of private conversations in the White House (which implies outrageously that Trump wasn't to be trusted).

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Reply #1431 –
Yesterday I found odds for Trump being impeached during his time in office at 5/4 or 2.25 for those needing a conversion.

I think this is going to explode pretty soon
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Reply #1432 –
Quote from: mateinone – on
Yesterday I found odds for Trump being impeached during his time in office at 5/4 or 2.25 for those needing a conversion.

I think this is going to explode pretty soon

Pence awaits in the wings.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1433 –
If they string it out for 18 months, then the GOP may well lose control of the House and/or the Senate in the mid-terms.  Then Pence won't be much of a problem.

Makes me think of Keating's taunt directed to Hewson - I'm going to do you slowly. 

I doubt if Trump would allow Pence to act like he wasn't part of Trump's shenanigans.  He would make sure that Pence is handcuffed to him.  The thing he hates most is an underling protecting his own butt rather than backing him to the hilt.  Underlings are like Secret Service agents - they're there to jump in front of him and take metaphorical bullets.

The bad news is that the 3rd in line is Paul Ryan, at least until the mid-term Election.

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Reply #1434 –
Quote from: Mav – on
If they string it out for 18 months, then the GOP may well lose control of the House and/or the Senate in the mid-terms.  Then Pence won't be much of a problem.

Makes me think of Keating's taunt directed to Hewson - I'm going to do you slowly. 

I doubt if Trump would allow Pence to act like he wasn't part of Trump's shenanigans.  He would make sure that Pence is handcuffed to him.  The thing he hates most is an underling protecting his own butt rather than backing him to the hilt.  Underlings are like Secret Service agents - they're there to jump in front of him and take metaphorical bullets.

The bad news is that the 3rd in line is Paul Ryan, at least until the mid-term Election.

Trump will have no say in it.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1435 –
Quote from: Mav – on
If they string it out for 18 months, then the GOP may well lose control of the House and/or the Senate in the mid-terms.  Then Pence won't be much of a problem.

Makes me think of Keating's taunt directed to Hewson - I'm going to do you slowly. 

I doubt if Trump would allow Pence to act like he wasn't part of Trump's shenanigans.  He would make sure that Pence is handcuffed to him.  The thing he hates most is an underling protecting his own butt rather than backing him to the hilt.  Underlings are like Secret Service agents - they're there to jump in front of him and take metaphorical bullets.

The bad news is that the 3rd in line is Paul Ryan, at least until the mid-term Election.

Interesting that most pundits on the Trump regime are not talking 'if', but 'when'. A blessing in disguise is that no-one can protect Trump from himself (his big mouth/tweets).
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Reply #1437 –
I know many speculated that Trump was the instrument to an election win, and that if they won he would be hung out to dry, but I'm not sure anybody expected it to be so rapid!

Is there a way out of this for Trump?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1438 –
Trump's sacking of Comey and his continued confrontations generally with the "systemic organisations" of Washington, along with the resultant chaotic situation at the White House will only be allowed to continue for a limited time. Unless things change pdq his days as president are numbered - one way or another.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1439 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Trump's sacking of Comey and his continued confrontations generally with the "systemic organisations" of Washington, along with the resultant chaotic situation at the White House will only be allowed to continue for a limited time. Unless things change pdq his days as president are numbered - one way or another.

Just as Blondie suggested! :o
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"