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Reply #3240 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
To be clear, I couldn't give a flying fark about the USA, hate the joint, but for me Biden is 1000 times more embarrassing than Trump.

1000%. Biden shouldn't be allowed to run a kindergarten let alone one of the worlds most powerful nations. The bloke is more cooked then Fantasia

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Reply #3241 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
To be clear, I couldn't give a flying fark about the USA, hate the joint, but for me Biden is 1000 times more embarrassing than Trump.

It probably depends on whether you are using the "International Measure of Despotic, Raving Lunacy" or the "Standard Rating of Walking Dead Who Can't Find Their Way Off Stage." ;D  ;D

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Reply #3242 –
Self serving despots don’t do much for me sorry, hes not leader in any way, shape or form
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #3243 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
Self serving despots don’t do much for me sorry, hes not leader in any way, shape or form

Particularly when the said self serving despot is obviously in cognitive decline and can no longer speak lucidly, understand basic concepts and who constantly whinges about perceived, inconsequential and irrelevant slights while bragging about his role in taking away women’s rights to control their own reproductive choices.

Sleepy Joe’s far from the sharpest knife in the drawer but he’s an absolute genius in comparison to Von Schitzenpants.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3244 –
Trump has a record of lying as long as your arm. He has lawsuits and scandals coming out of his ar$e. He is 4 years younger than Biden. As if he's some kind of mentally sharp and agile young thinker.

I'm not a fan of either. Biden has done a few good things, although admittedly the bar in the US is set pretty low.

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Reply #3245 –
The problem as I see it though  is that by their choice of candidate the Democrats are actually putting Trump in with a chance.

He should have no chance in a 'thinking' nation.
It's just illogical to me.
It makes no sense at all.
But then it is America...and that stopped making sense long ago.

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Reply #3246 –
A drowning man will cling onto a serpent is the the old adage.
Economic conditions with high inflation and interest rates have crippled the USA and the amount of homeless have increased by 12% since 2022.
These stats always work against the Government of the day and Biden has been unable to manage the economy and Trump has seen a rise in support from younger folks as well as non white voters
who are struggling with the cost of living.

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Reply #3247 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Trump has a record of lying as long as your arm. He has lawsuits and scandals coming out of his ar$e. He is 4 years younger than Biden. As if he's some kind of mentally sharp and agile young thinker.

I'm not a fan of either. Biden has done a few good things, although admittedly the bar in the US is set pretty low.
Biden is the world biggest embarrassment of a leader, I'd be ashamed to call him my President. Shouldn't be in charge of a Milk Bar let alone a country. Despite all his faults, gimme Trump every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #3248 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
A drowning man will cling onto a serpent is the the old adage.
Economic conditions with high inflation and interest rates have crippled the USA and the amount of homeless have increased by 12% since 2022.
These stats always work against the Government of the day and Biden has been unable to manage the economy and Trump has seen a rise in support from younger folks as well as non white voters
who are struggling with the cost of living.

I’m not sure that Von Schitzenpants is experiencing a rise in support.  Even though he’s the only GOP candidate, Von Schitzenpants is still only getting around 70% of the vote in the primaries.  If at least 25% of his own party don’t want to vote for him, it will be an uphill battle.  Then there’s his unpopularity with female voters that’s amplified by the E Jean Carroll case and the Stormy Daniels’ hush money case.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3249 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I’m not sure that Von Schitzenpants is experiencing a rise in support.  Even though he’s the only GOP candidate, Von Schitzenpants is still only getting around 70% of the vote in the primaries.  If at least 25% of his own party don’t want to vote for him, it will be an uphill battle.  Then there’s his unpopularity with female voters that’s amplified by the E Jean Carroll case and the Stormy Daniels’ hush money case.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412111/donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-swing-states-voting-poll-democrat.html
Im no fan of Trump and consider him dangerous but I think its Biden who faces the uphill battle, he is also being blamed for the turn of fortunes in the Ukraine conflict with his slow supply of arms/munitions to the Zelensky Govt allowing Putin to resupply and turn the war into a economic contest.

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Reply #3250 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Biden is the world biggest embarrassment of a leader, I'd be ashamed to call him my President. Shouldn't be in charge of a Milk Bar let alone a country.

Yes, but in comparison to Von Schitzenpants, Sleepy Joe is a combination of Haile Selassie, Winston Churchill, JFK, Douglas MacArthur, Queen Elizabeth, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma and Indira Gandhi.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3251 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412111/donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-swing-states-voting-poll-democrat.html

There’s a lot more to American voting polls than meets the eye:

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/latest-us-opinion-polls
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3252 –
Quote from: DJC – on
There’s a lot more to American voting polls than meets the eye:

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/latest-us-opinion-polls
From that link:
Most Americans say the economy and inflation are the most important issues determining who they will support for president in November
New ABC News/Ipsos polling finds that President Biden’s approval rating hovers in the mid-to-high 30’s, statistically unchanged from January. The economy and inflation remain the most important issues for Americans when determining who they may support for president in November. More Americans trust Trump over Biden on these issues and feel they were better off financially under Trump than Biden. However, Americans’ views on both of the candidates remain dim, with many feeling both candidates are too old and not trustworthy. Overall, the 2024 election remains a toss-up.

Id still rather be Trump based on those quotes....the war issues and economy wont be getting any better, anytime soon and while Trump is the bigger scumbag I reckon the lack of faith in Biden to fix the economic woes will see him ousted..

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Reply #3253 –
If the American judicial system wasn't so broken and corrupt, this discussion wouldn't even be happening.

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Reply #3254 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412111/donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-swing-states-voting-poll-democrat.html
Im no fan of Trump and consider him dangerous but I think its Biden who faces the uphill battle, he is also being blamed for the turn of fortunes in the Ukraine conflict with his slow supply of arms/munitions to the Zelensky Govt allowing Putin to resupply and turn the war into a economic contest.

But it wasn't Biden (or rather the folks looking after him) who held up the aid to Ukraine. It was the Republicans, probably at the behest of Trump who held up that aid by tying it to extracting extra concessions on other issues like the border security.
 
Mav warned about this when the war was in its infancy. If Trump wins you can probably kiss Ukraine goodbye. NATO wouldn't be able to rely on the USA. We'd probably need to worry about the strength of our own alliances. MAGA is an American first, isolationist movement. The security and well being of other countries doesn't really rate.

The Democrats don't get a free pass though.
If Biden's their candidate then Trump's a real chance....and that's on them.
Apart from the issues with economy, the other big issues in this election are border security and American jobs being lost to other countries. These are resonating when you hear American voters asked about the issues thaty concern them.

In the end the contest will boil down to whether the Americans would prefer a president largely controlled by his 'carers' or a president no-one is really capable of controlling.
That would seem an easy choice for us.
Apparently not so for the USA.