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Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #15 –
Move the ball slowly because there is no focal point at CHF directing traffic.

A lot of missed tackles, that will Come with body strength and conditioning.

Our midfielders are slow as a group and dont spread enough, and we got killed on the outside by Polec et al.  Didnt help getting slaughtered in the ruck. Gibbs played as bad/ineffective a game as i have seen.  Ed is another, have to question his future.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #16 –
Very tough night. That third QTR ????

Irrelevant in the midfield, worried for Cripps I'm just not sure about him. Competitive beast but ed curnowish by foot. Will be better with some more help than Gibbs and Murphy. I hope.

Speaking of curnow, Charlie was immense tonight - at least 8 marks and impacted the game. Was everywhere.

Jack sos, go back and take the kick son. Looks scared to take set shots and he shouldn't be.

Weiters. Play down back for a few, win some confidence or have a rest.

70 inside 50s to port apparently so midfield got smashed, seriously hope krooz is fit, Phillips was absolutely putrid.

Ins:

Kruezer, Jacksh, Cunningham

Out:
Murphy (Inj)
Phillips
Macreadie

Lucky to stay in:

Sos, Pickett, sps

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #17 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
We need to be a lot more skilful with our ball movement, and have a lot more players who are very good contested marks, to get away with that style of play. Certain teams with the right players can overcome the flood - we are not that team.

You think this is better? You'll be surprised how much better you can use the ball when there is space up forward and a forward can run onto the ball. Tough to use the ball well when it's always crowded.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #18 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
Well that was about as much fun as shaving with a rusty steak knife and swimming in vinegar. But I guess that's what happens when too many kids line up with senior players that aren't playing well or working hard enough.

Everything was off tonight - didn't work anywhere near hard enough both when we had the ball and in defence, poor disposal (really, really poor disposal) and we played like it was wet by just kicking long as soon as we got our hands on the ball.

We all knew there would be weeks like this. And chances are this won't be the only time we get smashed this year.

How do you get that?

The result is because the senior players were the only ones working!

Code: [Select]
1Patrick Cripps	14	23	37	3	0	3	0	5	0	1	121
2Sam Docherty	24	5	29	7	0	1	0	1	0	0	108
3Kade Simpson	13	8	21	9	0	0	0	5	0	0	102
4Bryce Gibbs	13	11	24	3	0	0	0	6	1	1	101
5Marc Murphy	16	9	25	11	0	0	1	0	0	1	97
6Charlie Curnow	16	3	19	8	0	2	0	3	0	0	92
7Levi Casboult	9	3	12	5	5	1	1	1	4	1	80
8Lachie Plowman	14	3	17	7	0	1	0	2	0	1	79
9Jack Silvagni	10	8	18	7	0	0	0	0	1	1	74
10Sam Petrevski-Seton	11	5	16	4	0	0	1	5	0	1	73
10Caleb Marchbank	10	3	13	7	0	0	0	4	0	0	73
12Simon White	10	9	19	7	0	0	1	1	0	0	70
13Tom Williamson	11	7	18	5	0	0	0	1	0	1	67
14Ed Curnow	8	9	17	2	0	0	1	5	0	0	65
15Matthew Wright	8	10	18	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	59
16Andrew Phillips	3	2	5	1	29	1	3	3	0	0	49
17Zac Fisher	8	9	17	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	44
18Cameron Polson	3	8	11	0	0	1	0	2	0	1	35
19Jacob Weitering	5	4	9	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	32
20Harrison Macreadie	4	4	8	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	30
21Jarrod Pickett	3	4	7	3	0	1	2	1	0	0	25
22Sam Rowe	1	3	4	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	17
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #19 –
Have to play the kids to get experience, hammerings like this are part of the education process.....players like Gray, Wingard, Polec burn us every game so it wasnt unexpected it would happen again given the amount of ball they had.
Charlie Curnow showed a bit, like Fisher as a player, Polson gets another game next week, SPS learned you have to get rid of the ball quicker and leave some of the candy selling for games where we have better control...Macreadie looked a bit slow , Marchbank was reasonable, Weitering had no supply down forward, Williamson continues to impress with his kicking.
Pickett was disappointing with his attack on the footy at times...picked and chose a few contests and needs to do better...
Cripps battled on but looks injured, Murphy tried, Gibbs ok at times and Casboult converted most of his chances...
Docherty had a shocker, Rowe did his job, Simpson looks like he is winding down....GC and Port both make him look a bit slow, the courage is still there but I thought he struggled to keep up with the younger players.
Ryder beat Philips but I didnt think the ruck was a major factor in us losing..

Need to move on quickly to the Swans game and not dwell on this one.....

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #20 –
Kids ran out of gas and were ragdolled in the clinches....and that's physically demanding.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #21 –
Quote from: Jeffy38 – on
Speaking of curnow, Charlie was immense tonight - at least 8 marks and impacted the game. Was everywhere.
:o
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Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #22 –
Quote from: laj – on
You think this is better? You'll be surprised how much better you can use the ball when there is space up forward and a forward can run onto the ball. Tough to use the ball well when it's always crowded.

You misread my post. We don't have the personnel to pull off that style of play.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #23 –
Ed was very ordinary...not sure what he brings these days, slow, hacker disposal, must be in the gun.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #24 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Ed was very ordinary...not sure what he brings these days, slow, hacker disposal, must be in the gun.

Agree. But he's not Pat Malone.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #25 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
:o

Go on....easily the best young player. Easily.

Marked and linked play. Looked pretty good to me, not sure what you saw though?

Looked clean apart from one fumble in the first and I'd go so far as to suggest our best player. Cripps was poo.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #26 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
You misread my post. We don't have the personnel to pull off that style of play.

You still like have someone running past after we take a mark to take a handball and open it up. I'd like to see us do stuff like that. We pick quick players so use the strength and run and carry. Not going to win many anyway so do it.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Ed was very ordinary...not sure what he brings these days, slow, hacker disposal, must be in the gun.

Not many tricks has Ed and the best taggers work both ways....problem is there are no other alternatives on the list
and I think having a potential very good player in brother Charlie might cut Ed some slack.
If you were to cut 10 players on our list Ed probably would still survive given what we have to work with....

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #28 –
Quote from: laj – on
You still like have someone running past after we take a mark to take a handball and open it up. I'd like to see us do stuff like that. We pick quick players so use the strength. Not going to win many anyway so do it.

Dude, I'm a Ratten man, remember ? I agree with you 100%.

Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #29 –
Quote from: LP – on
How do you get that?

The result is because the senior players were the only ones working!

Code: [Select]
1Patrick Cripps	14	23	37	3	0	3	0	5	0	1	121
2Sam Docherty	24	5	29	7	0	1	0	1	0	0	108
3Kade Simpson	13	8	21	9	0	0	0	5	0	0	102
4Bryce Gibbs	13	11	24	3	0	0	0	6	1	1	101
5Marc Murphy	16	9	25	11	0	0	1	0	0	1	97
6Charlie Curnow	16	3	19	8	0	2	0	3	0	0	92
7Levi Casboult	9	3	12	5	5	1	1	1	4	1	80
8Lachie Plowman	14	3	17	7	0	1	0	2	0	1	79
9Jack Silvagni	10	8	18	7	0	0	0	0	1	1	74
10Sam Petrevski-Seton	11	5	16	4	0	0	1	5	0	1	73
10Caleb Marchbank	10	3	13	7	0	0	0	4	0	0	73
12Simon White	10	9	19	7	0	0	1	1	0	0	70
13Tom Williamson	11	7	18	5	0	0	0	1	0	1	67
14Ed Curnow	8	9	17	2	0	0	1	5	0	0	65
15Matthew Wright	8	10	18	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	59
16Andrew Phillips	3	2	5	1	29	1	3	3	0	0	49
17Zac Fisher	8	9	17	0	0	1	1	1	0	0	44
18Cameron Polson	3	8	11	0	0	1	0	2	0	1	35
19Jacob Weitering	5	4	9	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	32
20Harrison Macreadie	4	4	8	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	30
21Jarrod Pickett	3	4	7	3	0	1	2	1	0	0	25
22Sam Rowe	1	3	4	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	17
The stat sheet really doesn't capture the quality of performances tonight.

Not saying the kids were great, but they're inexperienced and still developing. That's what they'll play like when too many play together and senior players aren't standing up.