Carlton Supporters Club

Question is.... have things changed twelve months down the track?
I'd like to see a change...I even wonder whether Murphy wouldn't mind being relieved of the captaincy.

I'll be super pissed off if we find post season a bunch of these kids have been played injured barely before they stopped growing!

I think that's exactly what you'll find. I know BB expects players to play through the pain (subject to team doctor approval) - it was the Clarkson/Hawthorn mantra as well which was fine with seasoned bodies or with players like Hodge who have fewer neurons. Weitering is still 19. 19!!! Yet he's been poleaxed by monsters week in week out. Hardly been the same since he nearly broke his neck saving that goal last year.

Also of concern to me are the observations that, once again, it was "boys v. men" on Saturday night. Weren't we saying this 5 years ago? ... 10 years ago? Sheesh, we just can't get the recruiting mix right. Words fail me.

It's hilarious

Imagine John Longmire saying that about two of his mids and one being the captain.

Seriously they're our captain and vice captain and two of our highest paid players and you want to make excuses for them?

Why? Because that's not their go.
Wow that is exactly why we are in the position we are in.

We continue to accept this crap.

When did Carlton become so pathetic

You need to adjust your expectations.

Dan Hannebery doesnt go as hard as you think he does, and doesn't cope when getting heavy attention.  Thing is he is surrounded by enough players that can shoulder the go hard load for him and then sticks to what is his go.

I watched Murphy emerge from no less than 3 Geelong players in a pack with the ball in hand on a couple of occasions on Saturday.  The fact that he wasn't then able to bring down the next Geelong player with the footy in hand doesn't make him any less hard at the contest, it's just not a strength of his (bringing players down).  We need to start playing our boys to their strengths, rather than expecting them to play like super heroes who don't get tired, and don't make errors who have perfectly functioning limbs.  His shoulder is about as cooked as Jamo's was, and I suspect that Murphy will not last much longer playing footy unless he changes the way he approaches his game.

Gibbs also looks like he struggles with his arms due to the torn pectoral muscle off the bone, and his issue isnt that he doesnt drag players down, his issue is that he is not capable of emerging from a pack of 3 or more opponents with the ball in hand, and getting the ball going on our terms but he is a very good play maker who can get rough and ready.


The players are not the problem, the expectations on them are.

This is what we have been contending with for the better part of the last 14 years.  A couple of guns, a few players that are handy and quite a few that would struggle to get a game on any other list.

You're onto something here 3 Leos.

I jumped into the car around 9 last night for a quick visit to the supermarket and tuned to SEN and caught them talking about our poor midfield. The commentator pointed out that we have one of the lightest and smallest midfields (except for Crippa) and that we must bring into the club bigger bodied mids. Hard to argue with that. Has anyone here stood next to Murphy? Expecting him to do in-and-under stuff is sending a lamb to the slaughter and then expecting Cripps to do it all (as was pointed out by the commentator) is just pounding him too much. Food for thought.

JH, I'm safely assuming you've never been a fan of his appointment as Captain - not when it was first announced, and not now. No doubt there are others who feel the same. But we have to accept that he's been endorsed by 2 very different regimes and playing groups, so whatever we as supporters see, the club and its various individuals appear to see it differently.

At most, next season will be his last as skipper IMO, and a change may happen at the end of this season.

Finding a Voss or a Hodge is not that easy.

Who was your choice for Captain when Judd vacated the position ?

I don't expect him to do it.
But he aint doing a lot else.
If he wants to play on the wings and in the pockets, pay him accordingly and don't make him Captain FFS.
He is not an elite kick. He is not super fast.

I get that, but now Cripps should be.
I would have made him skipper this year.

Kruezer or Simpson would have been a better bet at the time.