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Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #76 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Paul, I doubt he'll be ready and even if he is, he's gonna need quite some time to regain touch.

Charlie is unlikely to be ready. This is assuming everyone is fit.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #77 –
I'll be gobsmacked, if after de-listing Daisy, that Newman isn't one of the 1st picked.

He's about the only aggressive player we've got in D50.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #78 –
Quote from: jeza – on
Ins and Outs for round 1 from our round 23 team 2019... maybe

OUT:

Deluca, Josh
Dow, Paddy
Fisher, Zac
Kennedy, Matthew
OBrien, Lochie
Plowman, Lachie
Thomas, Dale

IN:

Caleb MARCHBANK
Liam JONES
Sam DOCHERTY
Jack NEWNES
Jack MARTIN
Charlie CURNOW
Eddie BETTS

If everyone were available that would be a far stronger team. A lot stronger back and forward line.

A lot less relying on young midfielders to play out of position as forwards or back flanks.

Poor old Plow still can;t get any love.

He just finished 3rd in our B+F and people still want to boot him from the side.

He'll be picked. Marchy will need to earn his stripes back.


As for Willo which people keep bringing up.

Is he better than a 300+ gamer in Simpson?
Is he better than our (co)captain in Docherty?
Is he better than super consistent Newman?

He has some talent....but if people think he is displacing those boys, it'd be due to injury.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #79 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Poor old Plow still can;t get any love.

He just finished 3rd in our B+F and people still want to boot him from the side.

He'll be picked. Marchy will need to earn his stripes back.

x2, I'm not buying into this debate because most of the posts are just lists of favourite players with no regard to team format or function.

On game style, considering the coach his playing history and game style, I suspect Newman and Plowman are walk up starts.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #80 –
Newnes will be a walk up start too.

As will martin.  If the kids are playing they'll have to knock out a young star, or bang the door down to get a game next season.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #81 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Poor old Plow still can;t get any love.

He just finished 3rd in our B+F and people still want to boot him from the side.

He'll be picked. Marchy will need to earn his stripes back.


As for Willo which people keep bringing up.

Is he better than a 300+ gamer in Simpson? When fully fit, I think he will be.
Is he better than our (co)captain in Docherty? No
Is he better than super consistent Newman? When fully fit, I think he will be.

He has some talent....but if people think he is displacing those boys, it'd be due to injury.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #82 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Poor old Plow still can;t get any love.

He just finished 3rd in our B+F and people still want to boot him from the side.

He'll be picked. Marchy will need to earn his stripes back.


As for Willo which people keep bringing up.

Is he better than a 300+ gamer in Simpson?
Is he better than our (co)captain in Docherty?
Is he better than super consistent Newman?

He has some talent....but if people think he is displacing those boys, it'd be due to injury.

So you prefer Plow - that's fine - but who is he replacing - it is bl00dy tough to find a spot:

B   Caleb MARCHBANK   Liam JONES   Nic NEWMAN
        
HB   Kade SIMPSON   Jacob WEITERING   Sam DOCHERTY

I think he would be head to head with Marchbank and that's a no-brainer for me. Plow would be the first one called on if there was an injury but I can't see him in the best 22 even if he did finish 3rd in the B&F.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #83 –
Simpson should probably make way if we are to develop players and improve for the future but he will be picked ahead of others because of his status.
I think he should have retired and been retained in a part time coaching role.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #84 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Simpson should probably make way if we are to develop players and improve for the future but he will be picked ahead of others because of his status.
I think he should have retired and been retained in a part time coaching role.

Agree, it was probably due to the injuries to Doc and Williamson that they kept him on.
Hopefully both are fully fit for 2020 and we see the next generation back line

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #85 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
Agree, it was probably due to the injuries to Doc and Williamson that they kept him on.
Hopefully both are fully fit for 2020 and we see the next generation back line

Assuming there was some other reason they chopped Daisy.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #86 –
Samo also training as half-back this preseason. If all those backmen are fit come round 1 and Samo locks down HBF we have a fairly strong VFL team potentially featuring Plowman, Marchbank and Williamson (or similar).

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #87 –
Back six is tough.

Assuming all are fit:

1. Jones and Weiters are locks. The KPPs.
2. Doc is a lock presuming fitness and some form.
3. Last three spots - SPS, Simmo, Newman, Newnes, Marchy, Willow and Plow.

I'll pick 4 of that lot (given Newnes and SPS are far more versatile as to where they can play).

I'll go for Plow (as the 3rd tall), Sammo (gun in waiting wherever he plays), Jack N and Newman (both tough and hard running). Newman as the main lock down defender.

One on the bench.

Noting Marchbank will undoubtedly be nursed back and Willo needs to prove himself in the 2s.

Simmo as back up!  :o
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #88 –
A lot seem to be leaving Plowman out.

He came 3rd in the B&F last season didn't he ?

Definate starter first up if he's fit.
I spent most of my money on Women and grog.
The rest I just wasted.

Re: Best 22 so far

Reply #89 –
I've thought long and hard over this one, well actually during my lunch break, and I've decided I'll only pick players who are not under any sort of injury cloud.

Injury cloud players (I think) : McKay, Docherty, Newman, C. Curnow, Kennedy

There's still a bit of time between now and round 1 but to tell you the truth if I didn't set some sort of criteria the task would be near impossible. Pretty good signs there.
Anyway I've also included reason's why on each. Here it is for what it's worth;

L. Plowman         L. Jones      C. Marchbank      

Plowman: Surely a guy who come 3rd in the B&F can at least get a gig in the BP?
Jones : Gotta say was super impressed by his comeback after a pretty nasty injury. Full pre-season should have him back to his best
Marchbank : Haven't heard of any injuries thus far so I can only assume he's fit. If so deserves a spot. Versatile

S. Petrevski-Seton      J. Weitering      K. Simpson   

Petrevski-Seton : Cannot exclude. Reasonable good year this year and looking for further improvement.
Weitering : Definite lock.
Simpson : Why would the club extend the champs contract without playing him. Has to be in.

J. Newnes         S. Walsh      Z. Fisher
Newnes : Good enough to get a game ahead of Lang and if he could get a run surely this bloke gets the job.
Walsh : No-brainer
Fisher : Really, really struggled with this one but I'm giving him a "year after some schmuck broke my leg"  excuses. Last chance

W. Setterfield         L. Casboult      J. Martin   

Setterfield : Has done enough and another handy utility type
Casboult : Another one who deserves the gig and his versatility ensures his selection.
Martin : After all the drama, could not possibly see this bloke missing out round one.

E. Betts         M. McGovern      M. Gibbons                  
            
Betts : Ensures a MASSIVE crowd through the gate round 1
McGovern : Hoping he will repay the club now that he appears to be fitter?
Gibbons : He's earned his spot also based on consistent form through 2019

         
M. Kreuzer   The Barometer
P. Cripps   The Brownlow Medalist
M. Murphy   The Born-again


J. Silvagni   E. Curnow   L. Stocker   P. Dow

Silvagni : Will be keen to stick it up certain "club" individuals
Curnow : The Duracell bunny
Stocker : Chance to finally show us his capabilities, I hope
Dow : Copped a bit of flack but he still good enough to get a spot ahead of others

Thereabouts but need to work through VFL
Cuningham
O'Brien
Goddard
Williamson