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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3406 –
You live on another planet LP.

Your Delta numbers are spurious, if not facile too.

So explain how case numbers in the UK are rising in a hugely vaccinated population (with much of the balance with natural immunity from previous infection or existing immunity).

Deaths in the UK?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

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The MHRA has received 425 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 904 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 5 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 22 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.

But heck, it's OK, they were old anyway!

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The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.

So no autopsy...and of course anyone who thinks themselves on the brink of deaths races out to get the vaccine right!

Occam's Razor 101.

Whilst you're at it LP, flick me the studies where they've isolated SARS COV2 would you?



Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3407 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
https://theconversation.cmail20.com/t/ViewEmail/r/E4BDE5B83B9BA4922540EF23F30FEDED/DFB0020512B27996ED4007335B4C37B5

This is the article in question ;

https://theconversation.com/contrasting-nsw-and-victoria-lockdown-coverage-reveals-much-about-the-politics-of-covid-and-the-media-163482

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3408 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
This is the article in question ;

https://theconversation.com/contrasting-nsw-and-victoria-lockdown-coverage-reveals-much-about-the-politics-of-covid-and-the-media-163482


Did I stuff up the link, Pauly? Wouldn't be surprised!

Such an important article from 'The Conversation' - the place I now go for truly objective, unbiased and intelligent reporting. Thank you, Pauly.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3409 –
Common sense has prevailed and AstraZeneca is to be made available to younger folk again 🙂😷
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3410 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Did I stuff up the link, Pauly? Wouldn't be surprised!

Such an important article from 'The Conversation' - the place I now go for truly objective, unbiased and intelligent reporting. Thank you, Pauly.

Yes, the Conversation is a breath of fresh air in the poisonous atmosphere generated by the Oligarch’s minions. 

Meanwhile, John “Brumbies” Barilaro has broken ranks and admitted that NSW should have gone into lockdown much earlier.  He is a loose cannon but I think he’s right in this case; Gladys has opened Pandora’s box 🙁😷
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3411 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Did I stuff up the link, Pauly? Wouldn't be surprised!

Such an important article from 'The Conversation' - the place I now go for truly objective, unbiased and intelligent reporting. Thank you, Pauly.


Balanced? Maybe maybe not. Yes the latest outbreak resulted from the SA hotel quarantine but the local Vic contact tracers botched one of the first exposure sites by naming the wrong Wollies store. Why wasn't this mentioned in the article. There were other failings in the local systems which we were told were  gold star.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3412 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Balanced? Maybe maybe not. Yes the latest outbreak resulted from the SA hotel quarantine but the local Vic contact tracers botched one of the first exposure sites by naming the wrong Wollies store. Why wasn't this mentioned in the article. There were other failings in the local systems which we were told were  gold star.

https://theconversation.com/where-did-victoria-go-so-wrong-with-contact-tracing-and-have-they-fixed-it-147993

Meanwhile, the COVID-infected father of the superspreader party host still hasn’t been contacted by NSW officials 🙄

Still, all of the outbreaks stem from returned travellers and hotel quarantine failures.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3413 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
Aaah, the old yellow card routine, voluntary reporting, a bit like asking a 1970s Sth African if they are racist!

For reference;
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Part of our monitoring role includes reviewing reports of suspected side effects. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. This is particularly the case when millions of people are vaccinated, and especially when most vaccines are being given to the most elderly people and people who have underlying illness.
Where does this definition come from that seems to undermine the validity of the yellow card scheme, ........................ and also undermines your own conclusions, ............................. from the very report you linked! :o
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3414 –
The political side of this bureaucratic bungling is putting everyone at jeopardy.
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General practitioners say they have been blindsided by a decision overnight regarding their administration of the AstraZeneca to under-60s. Some doctors say they are so confused by conflicting advice they are unwilling to administer the vaccine to younger cohorts until they receive official guidance.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced a new indemnity scheme on Monday night, which will allow GPs to administer the AstraZeneca vaccine to any adult who wants it regardless of their age.

From today, all Australians can walk into their general practices and request an AstraZeneca vaccine.
The bureaucrats are so reactive to political and social opinion, they are disregarding the science and flipping almost weekly.

In hindsight it was never about the science and all to do with blame, but none of us, well most of us, won't be surprised about that!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3415 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
https://theconversation.cmail20.com/t/ViewEmail/r/E4BDE5B83B9BA4922540EF23F30FEDED/DFB0020512B27996ED4007335B4C37B5
Then you look at The Hun and other News Ltd rags today, and they are telling millenials why they should not to worry and get the AZ vaccine ASAP.

News Ltd has no face, they've spent many months making spurious suggestions AZ will kill you, now it's being suggested as the ultimate miracle cure which you you get without hesitation.

@Baggers  It's exactly as your link suggests, and all about politics!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3416 –
The rats are fleeing a sinking ship:
Don’t blame me for Sydney cluster, it’s NSW’s problem: PM, AFR.
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Facing growing dissatisfaction from premiers about the supply of vaccination stocks, the Prime Minister blamed the NSW government for a failure to enforce mandatory vaccination rules to cover a driver of international aircrew who passed on the virus.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3417 –
I reckon it’s time to switch the focus to vaccinating the young. The oldies have had their opportunity to be vaccinated. By all means, ensure nursing home residents and staff are vaccinated and ensure frontline workers are as well. But what demographic is most likely to be out and about? Young people.

The original prioritisation of older people took into account that they would be more likely to be severely affected by Covid. But now we need to address transmission rates. It appears that The Delta variant is quite happy using the young as vectors, perhaps unlike previous strains.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3418 –
But this IS albeit indirectly, the fault of NSW.  Any cab can be hailed for whatever reason of carriage.  Airports and suburbs.  Same as a bus or a tram.  ALL public transport operators must be vaccinated and cleared regardless of state.  We are so farken stupid sometimes, that rule should have been instituted last year.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3419 –
Quote from: Mav – on
The rats are fleeing a sinking ship:
I think this could be seen coming for weeks now, the argy bargy has all been about plausible deniability.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"