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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3645 – July 12, 2021, 09:13:09 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 11, 2021, 09:48:13 pm

Communication breakdown, Is that what they call it they days? All that crapfull enquiry uncovered was how rampant amnesia is in the Labour Party. Disgraceful.

I think you'll find, GTC, good buddy, that convenient amnesia is a pill that most pollies, regardless of being Left or Right or Moderate, take on a daily basis. Along with three other pills - 1) @rse covering, 2) everything is their fault & 3) if anything good happens, it was my doing (and I'll launch a media saturation campaign to ensure you know it).

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3646 – July 12, 2021, 09:51:53 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 11, 2021, 04:45:09 pm

Im only going by recollection, I recall Andrews being criticised for refusing ADF assistance whilst the other states like NSW did accept.

For what, from the son of a friend who is in the Armed Services, it seems his highlight experience was mostly forming a guard of honour at politician pressers? And they apparently had a barrage of army staff preparing and delivering meals for over-run volunteers, emptying bins, and even some allegedly weeding gardens. Accepted, it may well be the army decided to do the weeding voluntarily after standing around with feck all to do for days and days on end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3647 – July 12, 2021, 10:13:47 am

Interesting times.

A massive Welcome trust multination study has just completed as part of the Recovery Initiative. 45,000+ Sars-CoV-2 infection patients, 184 sites, multiple countries, 4000+ doctors and researchers.

Some key takeaways;
. Treatments are no replacement for avoiding infection, vaccines are still the best and safest option.

- Aspirin is useless.
- Hydroxychloroquine is useless.
- Convalescent Plasma is useless.
- Azithromycin is useless.
- Colchicine is useless.
- Lopinavir-Ritonavir is useless.

+ Dexamethasone helps reduce deaths and aids recovery in up to 1/3rd of hospitalised patients.
+ Regeneron's monoclonal antibody has helped reduce death's in patients that do not have their own immune response.
+ Tocilizumab reduces deaths in patients hospitalised with COVID-19.

The actual results linked here, https://www.recoverytrial.net/results

Some of the lead people involved in this massive study have in the recent weeks been awarded knighthoods, it's estimated the study has saved more than 1 million lives in just a few months.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3648 – July 12, 2021, 11:27:48 am

112 cases ...

And we find that an infected removalist drove from NSW to Victoria and then SA before returning to Sydney where he tested positive. That’s why I’m looking on in horror and bemusement at what they’re (not) doing in NSW. It’s only a matter of time before they return us to lockdown.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3649 – July 12, 2021, 11:45:28 am

Correct @Mav .... just our daily diatribe, regardless of government.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3650 – July 12, 2021, 11:45:32 am

Do we rename her Gladys Burythemall?

Some will call louder than ever for closed borders, but it's probably too little too late, and it looks like permits for work invalidate that effort anyway. The solution was possibly a swift and decisive lockdown, but that opportunity is lost.

Death from Sars-CoV-2 as horrendous and unfortunate that it may be, it is not the real long term cost of this pandemic, and the authorities seem to give little regard to personal or societal cost of surviving with debilitating long term effects.

New studies starting to surface expose long term issues include thrombotic patina(clots in fine capillaries), neurotoxic and cognitive effects and also long term hypoxia(silent hypoxia). One recent study exposed almost 10% of asymptomatic Sars-CoV-2 cases showed signs of reduced grey matter, a sign of asymptomatic hypoxia (silent hypoxia). They don't know yet what will happen to these people long term, it's a bit grim!

There are estimates that in the UK between 3% to 8% of all infection cases, symptomatic or asymptomatic, may eventually leave the workforce and never return to work. The cost is likely to be horrendous and the impact of that on things like national disability schemes will be devastating.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3651 – July 12, 2021, 12:03:00 pm

Fairfax publish photos of Gladys looking like Darth Vader.

(She'd be well advised to perhaps wear something other than black, and perhaps update the hairstyle before Skywalker arrives!)

News Ltd concentrate on Rudd and Turnbull's "Meddling in the vaccine rollout!"

ScoMo seems to have withered and died on the vine or perhaps while hiding under the bed sheets like Foo, meanwhile the vaccination message disappears behind a phalanx of political headlines.

Our political leadership lacks ............................., that is all I can say about it!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3652 – July 12, 2021, 12:09:45 pm

Interesting claim by Raphael Epstein:

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Who is defined as a close contact?

This is a crucial question because so many of the daily new cases in Sydney are out and about while infectious.

From a distance, it looks like NSW is counting close contacts in a way that only catches about a third as many people as the contacts currently tracked by Victoria.

This May, Victoria had over 100 primary contacts for every case. Going on Saturday's count, NSW would have had over 50,000 on that method but it declared only 15,000.

Victoria learnt a hard and bitter lesson. You need to identify not just the "contact", the person who had been to an exposure site.

You need to identify all the contacts of each of those contacts. And then you need to go further to the third ring: the contacts of contacts of contacts. And they all need to be asked to isolate until the closest contact to the initial case has been cleared by a health department.

It was well into November last year before Victoria learnt this lesson.

Four questions NSW needs answers for as its COVID outbreak intensifies, abc.net.au

Is this true? If so, the NSW contact tracing system is hardly the “gold standard”.

If only AFL coaches had been seconded to run the pandemic response across Australia. The AFL is a monkey-see, monkey-do industry. There’s no copyright or patents: if a competitor is doing something right, you copy it. If you don’t know what the secret ingredient is, you poach a coach or player to tell you. But it seems politicians are more worried about maintaining their brand rather than learning from others.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3653 – July 12, 2021, 12:13:07 pm

Quote from: Mav – on July 12, 2021, 12:09:45 pm

Is this true? If so, the NSW contact tracing system is hardly the “gold standard”.

A trick of politics is that you get to choose the tape measure!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3654 – July 12, 2021, 02:16:20 pm

Along with that bitchy "Queensland hospitals are for Queenslanders" statement, they're all pathetic. Pay rises in the state. Flying to Tokyo for absolutely no reason. Promoting that addle brained fool Young to Governor General. Seriously sick and backward state.