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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5910 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I'm pretty good with the technology side of things (doing some computer programming in a past life) and even i struggled.
I got stuck in an endless loop of verification and linking that simply wouldn't work with MyGOV and service victoria app.
Ultimately i had to download a completely different app to get it to work, but that was found by sheer luck rather than any info i could find online.

I pity some of the older folks who wouldn't even know what an app store is.

I had a similar problem but managed to resolve it without seeking help from a young person.  I channeled the IT Crew  :)

It's just as well that I did because every cafe/restaurant we've been to has insisted on sighting our vaccination certificates.  They all said that they're getting 100% compliance and no-one arcing up.

You're right about older folk.  There should be a service to help folk get their vaccination certificate and an analog alternative for folk who don't do digital.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5911 –
My father in law doesn't even have a mobile - he's 84- let alone a smart phone.  He carries around a print out which seems to satisfy staff.

My parents don't have individual email addresses, so can't both register for My Gov.  Dad also refuses to update his phone, so his phone isn't new enough to register anyway.  Don't know what he is doing to get into places.  Mum by default is the same!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5912 –
But they soldier on ...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5913 –
I also carry a paper print out - works fine.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5914 –
Yes, they do, Cap.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5915 –
I was talking to my mates Mrs last night who's an ICU specialist at a big Melb hospital. Some of the things she said was that all of her covid patients are unvaxxed. Most have other health problems like obesity diabeties smokers etc. They aren't dying like they used to with better treatments but they will be ruined for life anyway. It takes eleven people to turn them over which happens twice a day. They are all in a coma and on ventilators. Their families almost always go and get vaxxed when they see how sick there loved ones are. The nurses and docs are getting totally worn out and are sick of having to wear all the stuff they need to work in a covid ward. It costs 4000 a day per patient and most stay for a long time.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5916 –
Sorry - tangent, which I'm good at.

My FIL owned a shop.  When he retired nearly 10 years ago, the most current technology he had was the old credit card 'click-clack' machine.  Didn't even have a cash register.  These newfangled phone things don't work for him.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5917 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
In a global pandemic, whatever the differences are in the motivations from the voices of true dissent and conspiracy theorists, the message is the same: do not get the jab!

My wife is a chronic asthmatic. If she were to catch Covid, do you think she would feel happier if it were to have been caught from a true dissenter rather than a conspiracy theorist?



She's probably going to be ok. 

Particularly if she got vaccinated.

Thats the reality.

The fit and healthy thirty something year olds or the teenage girls ive heard of having myocarditis might just have long lasting effects to protect her in the odd chance she fell to the wrong end of break through infection.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocarditis/symptoms-causes/syc-20352539

https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/

There is a lot of sensationalism regarding this.  Im double vaxxed have been for almost 6 months.

Plenty of examples ive heard of in the exact demographic of people least effected by covid.

16 year olds going to hospital two days after being vaccinated with heart issues isn't what I would call playing the percentages.

Here is the issue.  Some of us are so blinded by protecting those of us whom we know are vulnerable (who can be protected by vaccination) yet are unnecessarily exposing fit healthy and well people to a vaccine that IS causing a heart conditions to occur in young people.

Thats ok, they should get myocarditis at 16. 

Oh, I'm not saying dont get the jab.  I'm saying that perhaps the jab is a stupid idea for people not at risk.

But we've committed to that above all else. Rightly or wrongly.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5918 –
Myocarditis and / or pericarditis are also both effects of COVID, as is thrombosis, facts conveniently overlooked by vaccine naysayers.

The scientists now know TTS happens in people with APS, a condition which also more than doubles their risk of COVID death.

But who cares, let them get COVID at some random time in some random place with unknown treatment availability, perhaps so they can hide out for a few days as it's just a cold, rather than vaccinate them at a known time and place to be monitored by specialists from the earliest possible stages.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5919 –
Must say with EB and Thry posts, it's great to get the inside running on all perspectives to this bloody frightening pandemic.     

I read them all of course, regardless of member            

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5920 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Must say with EB and Thry posts, it's great to get the inside running on all perspectives to this bloody frightening pandemic.     

I read them all of course, regardless of member            
Cap, I just relay some of the stuff I get told, plenty of info I can't relay as well due to confidentiality and trust from those providing the info. Thry's info and observations are always accurate and delivered with a balanced perspective..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5921 –
I just got back from driving one of my grandsons home from hospital.  His mouth and throat were swollen and he had difficulty breathing.  My daughter, who is a health worker, thought it was probably a reaction to a virus he has had for a couple of days (COVID test was negative) and called an ambulance.  The ambulance arrived within 10 minutes, he was in the emergency department 10 minutes later and was seen by a doctor immediately.

The doctor confirmed my daughter's "diagnosis" and gave the young fellow antihistamines and steroids.  They kept him under observation for a couple of hours and I drove him back home at about 0030, tired and a little wobbly but much better.

Mrs DJC was in ICU recently after a bad reaction to post-operative drugs.  Most of the ICU beds were empty and there were 5 or 6 ICU nurses providing Mrs DJC with excellent care.  They often had time for a chat and most were concerned about the potential for their ICU to be overwhelmed if vaccination rates weren't high enough.

Of course, both of the above were in Geelong, aka Sleepy Hollow.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5922 –
Here is an interesting read. Something that might show some form of accountability. I hope it isn’t a link others have attached. I always have trouble with attached links.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme?fbclid=IwAR1MkzDvqf-KXUg7Fwm8SEZ5FDwZbwmJVNFw6zy3H8rxHquAAjZv2hLEMlA

If this works at least it might guide people to look in the right direction if something isn’t right and you need to follow up on a side effect. I hope nobody needs to feel any real side effects of any kind. Let me know if this site is genuine and if my attempt to put a link in place works. It appears to be quite recent. Do the walls have ears and eyes on this forum?
This digital world is too much for us insects to understand.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5923 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
She's probably going to be ok. 

Particularly if she got vaccinated.

Thats the reality.




Thry, my wife and I have  been double vaccinated since July and expect to get a booster shot late January.

Just as an aside, my immuno-compromised brother and his wife moved from Sydney to Byron Bay a fortnight ago to live close to their adult children.  So far he has been unable to find a doctor who is not into "wellness" and natural remedies.

Last night he told me the local schools are having trouble remaining open as up to 40 percent of the teachers are refusing to be vaccinated.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5924 –
Quote from: Mantis – on
Here is an interesting read. Something that might show some form of accountability. I hope it isn’t a link others have attached. I always have trouble with attached links.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme?fbclid=IwAR1MkzDvqf-KXUg7Fwm8SEZ5FDwZbwmJVNFw6zy3H8rxHquAAjZv2hLEMlA

If this works at least it might guide people to look in the right direction if something isn’t right and you need to follow up on a side effect. I hope nobody needs to feel any real side effects of any kind. Let me know if this site is genuine and if my attempt to put a link in place works. It appears to be quite recent. Do the walls have ears and eyes on this forum?
The scheme was announced quite a while back, the website lags a bit(months).

Governments and bureaucrats move so slowly the pandemic will probably be over before the first claim is ever processed! ;)

On this slow progress, some friends got smashed in the second storm that went through SE-Melbourne a fortnight back, now almost two weeks without power, no compo for the 1st week as it only kicks in second week. Insurers telling them it will be weeks or months before assessment and claim processing. That fits with my experience a few months back when we got smashed by a storm, insurers told us there was a 4 month waiting list as they are still processing people in Gippsland from the 2019 fires! So it is not always bureaucracy that moves slowly, so much for privatisation!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"