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Reply #6585 –
Bernard Tomic positive.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6586 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Sorry, I was going to reply but kept getting interrupted by my kids.

I thought your second last paragraph was true until you debunked that. Liam Jones thread pages 5.


That may have changed with Omicron though.

Each strain is slightly different.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6587 –
That's the only positive thing I've seen written about Tomic for years.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6588 –
Life can be a great leveler for some.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6589 –
It's now been a week since Djokovic was detained and rather than a decision we have indecision. Not a great omen for Djokovic as it suggests his claim of being infected on 16 December is being put under the microscope.

There is no justification for the delay otherwise. Alex Hawke clearly has a discretion to cancel visas and he would be able to call on his department and top barristers to make sure any decision he makes is bullet-proof. That preparatory work could have started as soon as he was detained last Friday and didn't need to wait for the Federal Court case. It's a personal discretion vested in the Minister for Immigration, so there's no need for him to wait for the Cabinet to make a decision. In fact, if he allowed Cabinet or the Prime Minister to dictate the decision, he'd be making a reviewable error. Of course, only the naive would think he would pay no heed to politics and the advice of his cabinet colleagues, but delaying the decision would spark conspiracy theories that he took into account improper considerations.

To make sure he is seen to take into account all relevant matters, he would have put Djokovic's lawyers in the hot seat. He would have called on them to make submissions to him regarding whether he should exercise his discretion to cancel the visa. This is pretty convenient because he can then state in shorthand that he's taken into account all of the matters Mr Djokovic has raised (or he can list those matters in his reasons for decision). That can be done pretty quickly, and if Djokovic's lawyers have failed to make speedy submissions, I'm sure Hawke would have blamed them for the delay.

So I reckon it's London to a brick that the delay is a result of a full-fledged investigation by the Federal Police and the ABF into the claim of prior infection. If it could be shown his medical exemption was obtained by fraud or Djokovic hid other matters that would have resulted in the cancellation of the visa, that would be a knock out blow for Djokovic. And it would result in a fairly large delay as natural justice would require the Minister to give Djokovic's lawyers a chance to respond to any proof of wrongdoing that might be uncovered. It would be the Holy Grail for Hawke: if Djokovic is caught red-handed, even his own supporters would find it hard to complain if he were deported. Public opinion in Australia would fall pretty much completely behind his expulsion.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6590 –
Hawke is taking FAR too long. 

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Reply #6591 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Hawke is taking FAR too long.
Is it an accident?

I've heard behind the scenes it's a political nightmare. So it may be that they are choosing the moment such that they are seen to do the right thing, but Djoker still gets to play. A ban that is then swiftly overturned in court, too late to prevent Djoker playing before the tournament starts/concludes.

I've also heard accusations that Conservative Federal and NSW State governments are colluding to get the next Aust Open into NSW, basically doing their best to throw a spanner in the works for this years event! I'm afraid even as a remote rumour it feels like something Scotty from Marketing and Parrotsay would be right into!

As an aside there are also some F1 rumors going around that NSW has sought an assurance from F1 that if this years race fails to go ahead without full crowds the next contract moves to NSW.

All this really does is paint Australia as a clown destination for such events, and it opens the door for foreign competitors, you wouldn't be surprised to find we loose both!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6592 –
Quote from: LP – on
As an aside there are also some F1 rumors going around that NSW has sought an assurance from F1 that if this years race fails to go ahead with full crowds the next contract moves to NSW.

All this really does is paint Australia as a clown destination for such events, and it opens the door for foreign competitors, you wouldn't be surprised to find we loose both!
NSW have been trying to steal the F1's for about 10 years now.
They have just redone the Albert Park Circuit and made it more of a track that encourages overtaking.

No way NSW could get a suitable track up and running in time that would be a better spectacle with better racing that what exists now.
As for the 'benchmark' of full crowds. No such thing. Its basically majority gen admin. Grand stand seating might make up 20% of the overall crowds and as a result, its impossible to predict what a 'full crowd' would even look like.

I can almost guarantee that crowds will be down, simply because a lot of people fly internationally to come to Melbourne for the first race of the year.
Now...
1. It is not the first race of the year, thus less appealing.
2. Less people are allowed in from overseas, and less are wanting to go anywhere from oversees.
3. Locals are a bit gun shy in going out and about at present, preferring to watch from the safety of their isolated living rooms....and i think that will be a trend for every race this year.

FWIW, i think F1 recently extended the Melbourne contract anyway. Its there until 2025.

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Reply #6593 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
As for the 'benchmark' of full crowds. No such thing. Its basically majority gen admin. Grand stand seating might make up 20% of the overall crowds and as a result, its impossible to predict what a 'full crowd' would even look like.
 
Sorry I fixed up that line, I did mean to write "without" full crowds.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6594 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
FWIW, i think F1 recently extended the Melbourne contract anyway. Its there until 2025.
Yes, the rumor is specific to the next contract, so in fact NSW would have 3 years to get ready if they can trigger the decision after the 2022 race.

I presume that NSW want it decided now, because if this shizen pandemic gets sorted 2023 would be a bumper event! The F1 glitterati will be among the first to resume international travel!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6595 –
Quote from: LP – on
Yes, the rumor is specific to the next contract, so in fact NSW would have 3 years to get ready if they can trigger the decision after the 2022 race.

I presume that NSW want it decided now, because if this shizen pandemic gets sorted 2023 would be a bumper event! The F1 glitterati will be among the first to resume international travel!
Its all good in theory, but NSW simply can't draw a crowd like sports made Melbourne can.
F1 is more than happy with the event in Melbourne (last 2 years being a hiccup, sure, but thats worldwide)

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Reply #6597 –
Australia doesn't deserve a grand slam.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #6599 –
So Djokovic was more of a threat to us than Scomo's Hillsong orgies?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!