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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6870 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
My dad died 4 years ago, 60 years old.
I'm sorry to hear that, my apologies.

But you get my point regardless.

Assuming they are in good / reasonable health, even perhaps with some underlying chronic condition, we don't look at parents and relatives and think another year or two doesn't really matter.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6871 –
Quote from: DJC – on
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia

The majority (2,556 deaths) of the 2,639 deaths registered with or from COVID to 31 January 2022 were due directly to COVID-19.
Yep, how this is reported and varies from region to region is more about politics, finance and funding.

The general public assume the reporting is like for like, a COVID death is a COVID death, but it isn't, laws aren't the same region to region, insurance policies vary, government funding mechanisms vary, welfare varies, political and media pressure varies accordingly.

A nice example, my UK associate has relatives somewhere in Europe, he tells me that in their location COVID deaths are not reported as an official COVID only death because there are no mechanisms in place to cover health care costs and welfare for a COVID case, so the doctors "look after" the families by listing a comorbidity like pneumonia, and then the case goes through the health care system unhindered. They are more cynical, they think it's remaining like that so that politicians can stand up and claim we don't have a COVID problem, because the incumbents are politically anti-lockdown, technically it is not a lie!

Not just across international boundaries, but even across our own country the reporting was initially inconsistent state to state, it's worth recalling this when we discuss head counts. Labels matter!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6873 –
Quote from: Mav – on
There's concern in NSW that the BA2 Omicron Subvariant is causing a spike in cases as it's more transmissible than the BA1 subvariant:
Brad Hazzard concerned at rise of COVID-19 Omicron sub-variant BA2, flags case spike, abc.net.au
We should all be hoping it's a false alarm.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6874 –
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the MCG ...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6875 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the MCG ...
Let's not put the cart before the hearse!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6876 –
Quote from: Mav – on
There's concern in NSW that the BA2 Omicron Subvariant is causing a spike in cases as it's more transmissible than the BA1 subvariant:
Brad Hazzard concerned at rise of COVID-19 Omicron sub-variant BA2, flags case spike, abc.net.au


Rising cases of the sniffles and sore throats coming to a stadium near you.

Ba2 is unlikely to evade vaccine protection. 

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6877 –
The media is drawing a !ink between COVID and Warne, now Senator Kitching also at 52!

Not sure there is a link, but would you take that risk, just a sniffle isn't it?

Are you sure?
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6878 –
LP the implied link is with the vaccination,  not Covid.  There has also been noise about many athletes having heart issues post jabs.

One of the anti vax messages is (supposed) high rates of myocarditis following jabs.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6879 –
Don't worry, it's just a sniffle!

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Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6880 –
Quote from: dodge – on
LP the implied link is with the vaccination,  not Covid.  There has also been noise about many athletes having heart issues post jabs.
That is a different issue and the mechanism is known, this new issue is post COVID / Long COVID related.


 
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6881 –
Nothing to with his lifestyle at all.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6883 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Nothing to with his lifestyle at all.
I don't think there is any doubt 30+ years of smoking is a contributor, or perhaps other aspects of his lifestyle, but does that mean we shouldn't be taking the added COVID risk more seriously?

If you read back through this thread, you'll find I've always asserted that Pfizer and Moderna caused an issue, they weren't the safe alternatives to Az that the media painted, but I also asserted that COVID itself in the absence of vaccines also caused an issue. If fact the scientists have been saying this almost from day one, that COVID causes Cardio Pulmonary problems.

What this really exposes is another flaw in the "Let it Rip" mentality, or that a "mild Omicron infection" is somehow safer and more effective than the vaccines! The science shows it clearly isn't, vaccine side-effects are almost exclusively restricted to a very narrow group of individuals who have certain risk factors, and will present within hours or days of being vaccinated. By comparison post COVID heart complications are happening across the spectrum, and can occur weeks and months later!

For this reason, it pays for everyone to be vigilant. Don't just assume it's a sniffle or you are a bit off-colour, accepting that sniffle assertion blindly increases your risk many fold, get checked out!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6884 –
^^

Stop fear mongering.

Its not helpful.  Covid isnt just a cold, but it is comparable to the sniffles now.  Its over, lets get on with it.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson