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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7395 –
And so the chickens of Meredith signal the official beginning of H5N1, it's got the potential to be a bad one, remain vigilant.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7396 –
I’ve placed my chooks under a strict curfew 🙂

Interestingly, the cookers are out in force on the poultry forums.  Similar conspiracy theories to those circulating about COVID. 🙄
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7397 –
Quote from: LP – on
And so the chickens of Meredith signal the official beginning of H5N1, it's got the potential to be a bad one, remain vigilant.
odds are in 6 months it will all be over.  
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7398 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
odds are in 6 months it will all be over.  

Avian flu generally doesn’t last too long.  It’s a lot easier to limit the transmission of a virus when you can eliminate the birds and animals that are infected or are at risk of infection.  Over 400,000 chooks have already been slaughtered.

Hopefully, it won’t spread to our dairy herds.  Apart from the loss of milk production, avian flu is more likely to infect humans from other mammalian hosts.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7399 –
It's interesting to read the cries for help from Paris retailers and traders about the negative effects of hosting the Olympics.

You have to wonder if the pandemic has at least in the short term changed the general public's view of crowds and congregations, or is it the growing concerns (media spin or real) about violence towards tourists, are they overblown?

Of course, Paris is not a inexpensive destination, and while it might be full of athletes, that is not going to help flash restaurants and bars, most Olympic athletes can barely make ends meet. So no visiting crowds is a big problem, and airlines also seem to be asserting inbound numbers are down.

I have to say, I've not been to France as much as some other countries but I've never really been all that interested in Paris itself, I'd rather be out in the regional areas if I was in France over summer. So I'd probably avoid the crowds too!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7400 –
I listened to an interesting discussion last night about the fear of vaccines and other things delivered by injection, I think I've heard this before.

A psychologist made a link between an evolutionary fear of being bitten or stung, needles and the anti-vaccine, 5G tracking chips, insert other suitable conspiracies here movements.

The explanation given was that the fear of being bitten or stung is inherent, it's part of our survival instincts, and some significant percentage of those protesting against vaccines are basically unable to overcome those evolutionary traits to avoid the sting. Modern society has only made things worse, adults aren't supposed to be scare of "a little needle", there is stigma attached to it, so subconsciously they make a link to unfounded rumours as a justification for the avoidance of injections.

Now I'm not sure if this is a good hypothesis to discuss openly, because surely there will be some that will make this a slur on those protesting, which can only divide. But next time you see those MAGA wearing diabetes riddled anti-vax protestors, you might have an unusually explanation, to them the needle is nothing more than a mechanical wasp, the rest is just an excuse!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7401 –
Sounds like a load of crap.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7402 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Sounds like a load of crap.
It's a known and accepted consequence of evolution, you are here today because an ancient ancestor jumped at shadows they thought might be a tiger, if they didn't they would be at greater risk of being prey.

In modern society it's education and knowledge that overcome primal fears, but those primal fears still exist, knowledge doesn't mean we are immune to them but knowledge helps to mange the fear.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7403 –
According to wikipedia, one of the main proponents of this idea is James G Hamilton. Wikipedia cites one of his papers from 1995. That's 30 years ago. I'd be curious to see the current consensus view on this among psychologists.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7404 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
According to wikipedia, one of the main proponents of this idea is James G Hamilton. Wikipedia cites one of his papers from 1995. That's 30 years ago. I'd be curious to see the current consensus view on this among psychologists.
Yes, I don't think the needle fear issue can questioned as it's self-evident in one form or another, but the association of anti-vax / anti-5G (with the associated micro-chips in the blood conspiracies) and other phobias is interesting.

Hamilton and his peers often discuss involuntary syncope as a key indicator something other than a conscious reaction is happening here.

I have an associate, somewhat considered to be a physical brute, +200cm and +100kg, manual labourer, callouses on callouses, muscles on muscles, is brought to his knees by a 34G needle, something so fine it is barely seen or registers for many people! His fear is irrational and for him a source of embarrassment, I've seen him brought to tears by a travel vaccination, so distraught over how his reaction would be viewed by his children he arranged separate appointments. It's a real world effect.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7405 –
It's of course not correct to treat the MAGA crowd as one undifferentiated lump, but I'd guess for many of that crowd, especially the males (and probably young males) the no needle / no vax thing is an identity marker more than anything. Their rhetoric, which features a lot of talk about toughness, hype masculinity, not taking cr@p from anyone etc., would be exposed as hollow posturing if they were scared of a needle.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7406 –
As a small aside, I'd be interested to know how many of the no vax crowd have tattoos.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7407 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
As a small aside, I'd be interested to know how many of the no vax crowd have tattoos.

Boxing great Manny Pacquiao refused Floyd Mayweather's requests to do extra drug tests which involved taking his blood on top of the standard
urine tests. His team said he was afraid of needles despite having numerous tattoos.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7408 –
A lot gets touted about anti vax people but if you want to find out where that mistrust sentiment comes from it's as simple as politicians are liars, so anything they push meets a justified sceptical response from people who perceive themselves as not being given a fair go.

Not absolving it but that's just how it goes. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7409 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Boxing great Manny Pacquiao refused Floyd Mayweather's requests to do extra drug tests which involved taking his blood on top of the standard
urine tests. His team said he was afraid of needles despite having numerous tattoos.

That sounds rather strange to me, and I'd hazard a guess that the reasons given are not the real reasons, but that's just my personal opinion.