Carlton Supporters Club

Reality and common sense has to be the priority and not have gender ID issues as part of the framework for discussion, thats for another study.

Agree with LP, Medical Resources are limited and there has to be proper criteria to be part of any study and unless you are a biological woman I cant see how you qualify for R/D into endometriosis and early onset menopause.
Reality and common sense has to be the priority and not have gender ID issues as part of the framework for discussion, thats for another study.

What is this "common sense" thing you speak of? Where does one obtain it? Online or in store only? Please elaborate as i'd like to get me a few dozen to hand out as gifts to people.

Yep, why was it included?

It feels either a political or mental health issue, and either seems a waste of funds.

This study is catering to a majority group with specific criteria and you cant include every medical segway, as we all know there are many conditions that affect minorities but the money/facilities just isnt there and why we have the many fundraisers we see today.

What is this "common sense" thing you speak of? Where does one obtain it? Online or in store only? Please elaborate as i'd like to get me a few dozen to hand out as gifts to people.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/chronic-disease/endometriosis-in-australia/contents/endometriosis

You may want to read the report before jumping to wild, transphobic conclusions, and you really should post a link to the original source document rather than resort to cheap sensationalist clickbait.

It means nothing @PaulP , we've already stated females that have transitioned to or identify as male are valid cases, it's the reverse that's a waste of money in a physical health study.

Being "included" or "inclusive" isn't a good enough reason, and volunteering a response shouldn't be a justification for inclusion either, we have already seen the damage voluntary data like the UK Yellow Card system does to the pandemic statistics.

So naturally, you have good evidence that rorting of the system is widespread, and thousands of people are trying it on, and bleeding taxpayers dry ? Bring the receipts.

I've already state, R&D dollars are rare in Australia, roughly 3% of GDP or 1:30 ratio.

We can't waste a cent, no matter how offended some minority might become over the removal of a socially constructed freedom!

No, every tax dollar we waste in R&D is worth about $30 in the general economy. Investigating and / or treating superfluous health conditions with wasted tax dollars is a tragedy. It's woke madness.

The researchers are begging for funds, and now they have to allocate hard funding for waste targets just to avoid being labelled discriminatory.

Further, it will completely distort / bias double blind trials, because some targets aren't genuinely afflicted and never could be afflicted by real world conditions.

The extremism inflicting humanity is unquestionable, many called it alarmist when people rallied against transgender in sport, and yet the protestors are and were correct.

Given the opportunity, eventually there will be some "bloke" somewhere who mounts a legal challenge claiming being excluded from a women's health trial is discriminatory, this is the way humanity behaves and there is no point denying it! Actually, it could well be more valid to include people who "Identify as Male" than those who identify as Female"!

PS; Identify as "Kangaroo", my sexuality "Indeterminate", so my pronouns are "Flyer or Boomer" My family has been here on this land the longest of any, and my ancestors were slaughtered by the 1st human arrivals, I'll be filing for compensation shortly!

I think this response just proved Blue Moons point.

If you are REALLY worried about tax payers $'s, then there are plenty of bigger fish to fry than going after a minority of a minority included here.
As ludicrous as it may be, its a drop in the ocean of where real $'s are being spent.