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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #30
We ran out of steam in the last quarter because we had used so much energy in the third quarter for so little reward.

Given the amount of time the ball was in our forward line in the third quarter we should have been ahead at the start of the last quarter.

As we were still behind at the beginning of the last quarter, the mental fragility of so many of our players was on show - they crumbled and that was the end for us.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #31
We ran out of steam in the last quarter because we had used so much energy in the third quarter for so little reward.

Given the amount of time the ball was in our forward line in the third quarter we should have been ahead at the start of the last quarter.

As we were still behind at the beginning of the last quarter, the mental fragility of so many of our players was on show - they crumbled and that was the end for us.
So much effort in that third for little reward. Their defenders were under siege and we didnt hurt them enough. We just needed one more goal in that burst and we would have been a real chance.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #33
We were slaughtered in the middle with no notable contributors outside Walsh. Cripps is badly out of form and is also moving so slowly, it appears that he’s injured again. Williams, Dow and Martin were just ok, whilst Newnes, Murphy and Curnow simply aren’t up to it and I’d replace all three with younger players like Stocker, Honey, Carroll and Cunningham. I’d stick with Setterfield for one more week and move SPS into the middle as he showed some great signs tonight.

In the ruck, whilst Pittonet is a solid emergency/second ruck, we’re officially desperate for Dekoning’s return.

And, I’m not sure if others notice it but Liam Jones is killing us in defence (two weeks in a row now) - he has minimal game sense and makes so many stupid decisions at critical times. He may take a spectacular mark every now and then, but the guy is an enormous liability and I’d be getting him out of defence asap and asking either of Mcgovern or Casboult to take his spot. That tap directly to DeGoey for goal and his continual spoiling into the corridor is a lot to take - I feel for Teague.

If we’re to ever be a threat Newnes, Curnow, Murphy, Casboult & Jones need to be replaced with much more capable players.




Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #34
Its inexcusable to lose against a far inferior team, but ours managed to do it.
Our inability to defend against small forwards is unbelievable, but Buckley knew this and hence he loaded up in that area. Teague was inept in stopping that rot.
Levi isn't right. O'mac should have been in the starting lineup without question, especially given his results last week.
We are 0 and 2 for something like 10 years in a row.
We cannot deliver 4 quarters of unrelenting, determined, effective football.
Teague is far too passive. His presser was a joke. He should be breathing fire, and stating without doubt, that was UNACCEPTABLE, but we get the " I believe in this group" and other meaningless platitudes . Its rubbish!
I'm just flabbergasted at this effort and result.
I love this footy club, I really do, but wow, they give me a huge test of my love, when they play like this!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #35
Tonight he wasn't
Disappointed to hear that, he's normally killin' it with his fierce tackling and laser like delivery into the forward line. Let alone his relentless pressure and unmatched second efforts. Just the complete footballer and would make Byron Pickett crap himself with his attack on the ball... Ahhh, the wonderful memories he's provided the club...
Drugs are bad, mmmkay...

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #36
Its inexcusable to lose against a far inferior team, but ours managed to do it.
I'm not sure where this is coming from, the media has blown smoke up the ar5e of footy fans about the Filth being on the slide and the fans have sucked it up like a fresh breeze of Frankincense.

The Filth aren't as bad as the media make out, and with good fortune they will be in and around the finals again.

This result was writ large way before the first bounce, nothing that happened tonight was surprise, it's a tell and a dose of reality.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #37
I'm not sure where this from, the media has blown smoke up the ar5e of footy fans and they sucked it up like a fresh breeze of Frankincense. The Filth aren't as bad as the media make out, and with good fortune they will be in and around the finals again.

This result was writ large way before the first bounce, nothing that happened tonight was surprise, it's a tell and a dose of reality.
They are ok when their good players play well, most of them were on tonight. Thought their leaders rose to the challenge better than ours, Pendlebury, Adams plus Moore has developed into a leader down back. Cripps and Docherty were average and ineffective as players and leaders IMO.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #38
move SPS into the middle as he showed some great signs tonight.


SPS showed the desperation and intensity that was missing last week (and in most of his games) but he has done so before, only to fall back into old traits after a week or two. Nevertheless, I think he has more to offer between half forward and the midfield.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #39
Doc was interviewed before the game and said they focused this week on there own game and did a lot less on the opposition.  Well it showed.

Midfield was slaughtered again. After 5 years into a rebuild If Cripps is contained it’s still game over.

I copped a lot of crap for how critical I was on SOS inability to get ready made support in the middle. We had Ed, setterfield and Dow all together in the middle in the last. That’s a VFL standard midfield when the game is still winnable.

We are still a shallow midfield and will be unable to mix it for a full game with any one except a bottom team.  Williams will be good but he wont be the answer without more support and good luck hoping Dow LOB setterfield or Kennedy filling the void.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #40
Our skills are just not up to top flight standard.  The clear difference tonight was that the Pies hit the vast majority of their targets, while we sprayed it all over the place. 

Most disappointingly, we are just not hard enough at it - second to the hard ball, half-baked tackles, and turnovers.  Our midfield provides little or no defence, which makes life very hard in our back half.

Forget the score, we got owned tonight.   Their run through the middle chopped us up, which is why so many of their goals came from easy marks inside 50.

I fear we are not much better than last year...... if not slightly less so
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #41
I'm not sure where this is coming 9from, the media has blown smoke up the ar5e of footy fans about the Filth being on the slide and the fans have sucked it up like a fresh breeze of Frankincense.

The Filth aren't as bad as the media make out, and with good fortune they will be in and around the finals again.

This result was writ large way before the first bounce, nothing that happened tonight was surprise, it's a tell and a dose of reality.

It's not coming from the media. It's coming from the fact the Magpies, are on exposed form a far more ordinary team, admittedly, based on their last game but that's all we have to judge on for this season. There are other facts in my post which u don't acknowledge  or provide a view on. I'm not sure why?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #42
Our skills are just not up to top flight standard.  The clear difference tonight was that the Pies hit the vast majority of their targets, while we sprayed it all over the place. 

Most disappointingly, we are just not hard enough at it - second to the hard ball, half-baked tackles, and turnovers.  Our midfield provides little or no defence, which makes life very hard in our back half.

Forget the score, we got owned tonight.   Their run through the middle chopped us up, which is why so many of their goals came from easy marks inside 50.

I fear we are not much better than last year...... if not slightly less so

Nothing to do with skill.
All about effort.
Finals, then 4 in a row!


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #44
Call it conditioning, call it frustration, I woke up this morning feeling that we are just not that good. Just to the left of me in the stands last night were:
Betts
Gov
Jack S
Matty C
Nick Newman
plus all the youngies
Would any of them have made a difference last night? Doubt it.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot