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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #105 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Kennedy is a poor mans Jack Silvagni.

Play him as a hit-up forward.
Both CAN run through the midfield (remember Jack dominated Fyfe) but its not something that is likely to work too often.

Could do worse than have them change and rotate through.

On Kennedy, anyone have an idea how many games he played as a mid for us ?
Let’s go BIG !

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #106 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Can i tell you how Clarko will beat us? (if he beats us)

Put extra players behind the ball, get the intercept mark from our poor kicking inside 50 and rebound all the way to goals.
Tag Walsh, let Cripps go free.
Lockdown on Saad.
Smother our better users and let give our poor kickers time and space to help their game plan.

Bookmark it.

I had a very pleasant meal tonight which included having a couple of cheeky reds.  My mind wandered into a warm, fuzzy place and I began thinking it possible we could beat the Hawks.

Then I read your contribution and reality came crashing down on me. 

It was as though a bandage had been ripped from an old wound and all the defeats at the hands of Hawthorn this century came flooding back into my mind.

My only escape is to open that bottle again.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #107 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Kennedy is a poor mans Jack Silvagni.

Play him as a hit-up forward.
Both CAN run through the midfield (remember Jack dominated Fyfe) but its not something that is likely to work too often.
Kennedy might be a poor mans Silvagni but at least he kicks straight. I love Silvagni for his endeavours but his lazy kicking takes all the momentum out of our charges forward and seems to always lead to the opposition getting a goal straight afterwards and releasing any pressure we have built up. Very slack style that he hasn’t worked on one bit to polish. Blokes like him need goals from their few set shot opportunities not coach killing points

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #108 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I try to understand the journey we're on, and as such I've haven't been too upset by our season thus far. It seems to be panning out about right for where we are at IMO - but I'd be pretty disappointed if we don't win this one. The Hawks are struggling at the moment, their ins are blokes I've never heard of, we play at the G etc. If this isn't winnable, I'm not sure what game is.

That's pretty fair Paul.  The only loss that I think is inexcusable is the Collingwood game.  They are a rabble and we should have exploited their on and off field woes for a comfortable victory. 

Hawthorn is probably fielding their weakest team in half a century and a loss to them could well cost Teague his job.  Hopefully, he's up for the challenge and will have the players fired up to exploit a once feared nemesis.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #109 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
Could do worse than have them change and rotate through.

On Kennedy, anyone have an idea how many games he played as a mid for us ?

Kennedy has played 31 games for us and I think that two of those were as a lead up forward.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #110 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
Could do worse than have them change and rotate through.

On Kennedy, anyone have an idea how many games he played as a mid for us ?

Kennedy is a far better mid, a far better mark (and lead) and a far better shot at goal.

Goes just as hard as Jack too.

The two players are not like for like.

Speed? I'd suggest Kennedy has Jack covered (and people who diss Kennedy - a fit Kennedy - for being slow are simply wrong.

Perhaps Jack wins in endurance though.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #111 –
Kennedy hasn't been settled in a position and there has always been rumours perhaps he can be a bit prickly to coach and likes to give his opinion. How many games in a row in the midfield has he really played?
I would have played him more but its probably too late now and he will be lucky to remain on the list.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #112 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
I had a very pleasant meal tonight which included having a couple of cheeky reds.  My mind wandered into a warm, fuzzy place and I began thinking it possible we could beat the Hawks.

Then I read your contribution and reality came crashing down on me. 

It was as though a bandage had been ripped from an old wound and all the defeats at the hands of Hawthorn this century came flooding back into my mind.

My only escape is to open that bottle again.
Don't get me wrong, I think we'll win, but if we don't, that is why.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #113 –
Kennedy played ten of the final 13 games of 2019.  He hit the scoreboard in six of those games with a four goal haul against Gold Coast. 

He touched the pill 15 and 16 times in two games but had under ten disposals in four games.  He laid seven tackles against Adelaide but only nine over his other nine games.

Lochie O’Brien played in 17 games in 2019 and scored in six of them.  He had more than 15 disposals in six games and less than ten disposals in five games. He averaged just over one tackle a game.

Lochie played mainly on the wing with some time in defence and Matt played mainly as an inside mid with a couple of games as a forward, so it’s not really comparing like with like.  I don’t think that we can carry midfielders - inside or out - who manage less than 10 disposals in a game and don’t make their presence felt with lots of tackles.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #114 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Kennedy hasn't been settled in a position and there has always been rumours perhaps he can be a bit prickly to coach and likes to give his opinion. How many games in a row in the midfield has he really played?
I would have played him more but its probably too late now and he will be lucky to remain on the list.

I get the strong impression that he is way on the outer with the MC and or coaches for whatever reason(s).
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #115 –
The Age experts are all tipping a Carlton victory. Bob Murphy tipping that we'll win by 70 points. Pierik, Gleeson and McClure tipping a 1 point win.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #116 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
The Age experts are all tipping a Carlton victory. Bob Murphy tipping that we'll win by 70 points. Pierik, Gleeson and McClure tipping a 1 point win.
Wouldn't be the first time we've been in this position and blown it. It's all setting up for a major fail.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #117 –
Our hubris is only shaded by our paramnesia!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #118 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Wouldn't be the first time we've been in this position and blown it. It's all setting up for a major fail.

No doubt. But logically, Teague + our list > Clarkson + their list, even though I accept that Clarko is a master tactician. The gap between the two coaches can't be enough to overcome the difference in list quality / experience, surely ? I really hope I'm right about this.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 10: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #119 –
I'd like to see Saad rotate through the midfield, as a 2nd receiver / outside player. His pace, evasiveness and good kicking would be a real asset IMO. If I recall correctly, part of the attraction of coming to Carlton was the promise of more midfield time.