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Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #45 –
Is Honey a possible replacement option for Gibbons? Are they similar types....playing similar roles?

Said it previously in other topic forums on here but our drafting/recruiting/trading for tall players has been woeful and the fact that we've got none playing in the VFL who are of any remote chance of playing in the AFL anytime soon suggests that.

Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #46 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I'm not sure who put together our VFL side but I hope they don't have a role with our list management.

They need to increase the cap. They can't compete with the division 1 suburban clubs.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #47 –
Review | Carlton Reserves v Box Hill Hawks

Paul Sebastiani gives us the rundown after a very disappointing day for the Carlton Reserves. Interesting the bit about SPS.

https://youtu.be/3dknfmekCTI

Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #48 –
SPS simply does not care ... pity

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Reply #49 –
Quote from: capcom – on
SPS simply does not care ... pity
Reckon our VFL mate is right and SPS has checked out and will want to head home, problem is his trade value wont be great given
his atrocious form. I thought Honey and Williamson would be the only ones you would pick to come back in, Kemp needs 3-5 more games to condition himself and get used to the speed of senior footy. Crocker wasnt bad given he was playing with a bunch of bananas and no hopers in the main and will still be a chance to be picked up next week by someone.

Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #50 –
Quote from: capcom – on
SPS simply does not care ... pity
Hasn't cared since the day he arrived.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #51 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Reckon our VFL mate is right and SPS has checked out and will want to head home, problem is his trade value wont be great given
his atrocious form. I thought Honey and Williamson would be the only ones you would pick to come back in, Kemp needs 3-5 more games to condition himself and get used to the speed of senior footy. Crocker wasnt bad given he was playing with a bunch of bananas and no hopers in the main and will still be a chance to be picked up next week by someone.

Spot on.

Fortunately WA clubs are fully aware of SPSs capabilities so, if traded, he will have some currency... not a huge amount considering the position he was taken at in the draft though. He really was given every opportunity, especially when moved to the midfield in the seniors... that was his opportunity to grasp, but he failed so now he has a few months in the Magoos unless something changes... big time.

Agree with Paul Sab. and his observations, especially that Kemp really did seem a step above the grade he was playing in. Like to see Honey given a go in the seniors... he did well given he had FA opportunities in a forward line that was starved.
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Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill

Reply #52 –
Quote from: capcom – on
SPS simply does not care ... pity

Well he rarely if ever displays any passion or intensity in his play. Always looks to me like he’s cruising and always has. I don’t think we can reasonably expect him to change. A luxury we can’t afford IMO, maybe he’d go ok under less pressure in a much better side than us, who knows?
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #53 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Well he rarely if ever displays any passion or intensity in his play. Always looks to me like he’s cruising and always has. I don’t think we can reasonably expect him to change. A luxury we can’t afford IMO, maybe he’d go ok under less pressure in a much better side than us, who knows?
This kids hardly missed a beat since arriving, and fans just expect more and more from him than I believe he's got to deliver.

 He's a good footballer, he might never be a match winner, but why should we expect it?

I remember fans saying / complaining as much about The Hyphen's laconic character, then he stitched up Brereton on GF day and became a legend! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #54 –
Quote from: LP – on
I remember fans saying / complaining as much about The Hyphen's laconic character, then he stitched up Brereton on GF day and became a legend! ;)
With all due respect LP, Rhys had just a wee, wee bit more mongrel. Still, as you suggest, still not ready to write this bloke off yet but his form needs to improve and maybe a run in the 2's will get the penny to drop. Watch this space.

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Reply #55 –
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With all due respect LP, Rhys had just a wee, wee bit more mongrel. Still, as you suggest, still not ready to write this bloke off yet but his form needs to improve and maybe a run in the 2's will get the penny to drop. Watch this space.
Different era @rocky‍ , but I do understand your frame of reference.

I can't work out with SPS if it's him or how he is used by the MC, fans should be a bit reticent to put all the blame on the player all the time.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #56 –
Rhys and Petrevski Seton comparisons?  Entirely different players.  One was silk, the other cheap hessian   

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Reply #57 –
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Rhys and Petrevski Seton comparisons?  Entirely different players.  One was silk, the other cheap hessian  
Even so, many fans in the outer at PP use to go berserk because of the way The Hyphen use to appear like he was jogging at half pace everywhere! They judged the players intensity on appearances.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #58 –
LP,  I'm shaking my head mate.   The spook was one of the finest natural footballers I've ever seen. He may have looked laconic at times (he made time slow down during play because he read the play brilliantly and was utterly unflustered under pressure), but the burning competitiveness and toughness - he is poles apart from SPS.
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Reply #59 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
LP,  I'm shaking my head mate.  The spook was one of the finest natural footballers I've ever seen. He may have looked laconic at times (he made time slow down during play because he read the play brilliantly and was utterly unflustered under pressure), but the burning competitiveness and toughness - he is poles apart from SPS.
I'm not comparing SPS to The Hyphen, that is not my point, I'm demonstrating how appearances can deceive.

A lot of fans reckon SPS doesn't care, that he has no intensity, I doubt that is true for any player who debuts than plays the bulk of 3 straight seasons without being dropped!

Fwiw, it's the very same way they misjudged Gibbs.

For some reason a lot of fans think if you are not jumping around like a vibrator in a jam jar you aren't trying or don't care, it's a bullcrap perspective!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"