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Our defence in 2016 and 2017 was pretty reasonable. Once Teague came on board in 2018, the focus shifted and the coherence from those 2 years just evaporated. I'm not sure what's up, and I have no interest in starting yet another slanging match, but his coaching history with us clearly shows a struggle / lack of interest in modern, sophisticated defensive setups. We are lucky that neither Weitering nor Jones have been out long term, because we would be stuffed. Teague's reliance on these two is excessive IMO.

Are you referring to the one on the CFC home page, that goes for about 12 minutes ?

If so, it sounded like most TT press conferences IMO. He said he believes that their systems are fine, and the problems are due to players failing to execute the system. Then added that once the players start executing the system correctly, if it still fails, then they would look at it (or words to that effect).

That worries me!

Teague would benefit from an intensive media awareness course.  However, a higher priority should be the AFL's level 4 coaching course ... but it's probably not a good look to send a senior coach on a coaching course.

That thinking - blaming the players for not executing the gameplan - is reminiscent of Pagan and Malthouse and I would like to think that Teague is more flexible and innovative than those two.

We were still making the same basic defensive errors under Bolts Paul.  In fact, we've been making them since the turn of the century 

It goes without saying that a team near the bottom for most of the last 20 years will have defensive issues, but the character and tone of the current situation seems different to me. Whatever grumps our players had with game plans / personalities of DP, MM and Bolts, the issues were deeper than structural IMO in those times. To my eyes, CFC June 2019 is pretty much the same as CFC June 2021, and whatever defensive issues we have now are principally structural in nature, and no one seems to be able overcome them. If our players still can't execute Teague's rather basic game plan after 2 1/2 seasons.....................

I'm pretty sure Teague has done the coaching course.

I can't see the link, but someone with HS access might be able to confirm...
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/six-assistants-locked-in-for-afls-level-4-coaching-course-as-they-eye-senior-gig/news-story/640055e06e7f6d7ab74ac4f56502365b

I think it's the latter Paul.

Every time I watch our games on TV, the expert comments blokes have a picnic on our poor defensive set ups, players ball-watching, poor positioning (or players badly out of position), not recognising opposition players' strengths (ie allowing left footers to get on their left), ad nauseum.  Bolts had a more defensive gameplan but those same problems were still evident.

It's my belief that our players have never learned how to play AFL team defence and, consequently, we rely on individual efforts and winning one on one contests.  Imagine how good Weiters would be if he was in Richmond's backline with five blokes who know how to play team defence.

I'm not sure that it's something that coaches can fix, although they should be able to address the basics.  I can't help but think that our defence would more effective if we had beaten Brisbane to Luke Hodge.  Daisy may have played a similar role, but not with the same impact and effectiveness.

Anyway, I hope Teague reads the article and takes some action to fix the problems.

Yes guys, it's the old adage, "if you want to win, first you have to make sure you don't lose".

Very easy to pick apart what went wrong with replays.

Reality is there's two teams determining that.
The art of war by sun tsu's lessons vary but you need to know a lot.

Here is one quote:

Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength.

He did also state:

If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. #

Chang Yu said: "Knowing the enemy enables you to take the offensive, knowing yourself enables you to stand on the defensive." He adds: "Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack." It would be hard to find a better epitome of the root-principle of war.

I think we are still learning about ourselves which is why I'm not worried about opposition focus.

Who is watching replays Thry?  I don't, and I suspect that our players and coaches don't watch them either.

Sun Tzu was a smart cookie, but he knew nothing about footy.  I'd prefer to listen to the likes of Luke Hodge and Jimmy Bartel; they know what they're talking about.

And it's not about opposition focus, it's about football basics in 2021.

Our team suffers from mentality issues not execution problems.

It does not have to be one or the other, it can be both, and one can be contributing to the other like a feedback loop!

Newnes is our sub. Ash for the Giants.

Surely we can use the med sub on someone other this bloke.
A kid? Help the ex skipper crawl to 300.