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Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #105 –
Quote from: capcom – on
His body of work is nothing to sneeze at.  A straight trade for SPS, it's an easy decision.

Money though is a worry.  Maybe he just wants to come home.  And maybe we have higher priorities.  And if you don't ask, you don't get

I wouldn't do that trade, unless SPS says he wants to go.....

And Cerra's $$$ are modest.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #106 –
ps Eddie Betts averaging 1.7 goals a game.

Combine his GA - goal assists, he's up there with any small forward.

He plays on in 2022.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #107 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
ps Eddie Betts averaging 1.7 goals a game.

Combine his GA's assists, he's up there with any small forward.

He plays on in 2022.

Was thinking the same thing. Has been pretty good and i wouldn't drop him coz we don't have anyone better yet.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #108 –
Before last night's game I believed that our lapses in concentration were caused by so much effort being used for very poor results on the scoreboard and physical fatigue setting in.

But last night was different.  For once we kicked accurately and Freo didn't.  We still looked fresh going into the halftime break but when the third quarter started it looked as though the players had spent the break smoking weed. Our mid field disappeared and too many players became spectators.  In  the main it was our backline and Freo's bad kicking that had us in front at three quarter time.

What worries me when we have these lapses is that we do dumb things without being under pressure.  The turnovers by foot quickly appear and lack of confidence just lowers our ability to put pressure back on the opposition.

Clearly mental attitude is a factor but I don't know how to improve it.

I'm so pleased with the win but...

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #109 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
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I'm so pleased with the win but...

Yes, I tend to agree. A win is a win, but the reality of where we're at IMO is that they will be scratchy wins for a little while, with lots of ticker shown by the boys and some luck. Freo had more scoring shots and more I50's, and the game should have been a lot closer than it was through the 3rd and into the 4th. I was pleased that we won both the tackle count (we almost always lose this), and also the disposals and uncontested possessions. Those three combined are usually the signs of high work rate and good team cohesion, so well done there.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #110 –
Winning ugly is a sign of an improving team.

Previously we could only win when everything went our way.

Now we have more injuries than any team....are under an external review....been bashed by the media....

Yet we have won our last 2 against opponents we should be beating despite all of the negatives above.

We might not have quite turned the corner yet, but we can touch it.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #111 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
On a very cold night, all players wore sleeveless jumpers. Normally Plowman, SPS and Silvagni minimum would have sleeves.  A review recommendation or coach directive???
Just getting em ready for Clarko who has a "no long sleeve jumper" policy :D
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #112 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
ps Eddie Betts averaging 1.7 goals a game.

Combine his GA - goal assists, he's up there with any small forward.

He plays on in 2022.
and he's an on field fwd line coach.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #113 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
ps Eddie Betts averaging 1.7 goals a game.

Combine his GA - goal assists, he's up there with any small forward.

He plays on in 2022.

He's kicked 20 in his his last 9 games. At nearly 35yo that is great going.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #114 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Winning ugly is a sign of an improving team.

Previously we could only win when everything went our way.

Now we have more injuries than any team....are under an external review....been bashed by the media....

Yet we have won our last 2 against opponents we should be beating despite all of the negatives above.

We might not have quite turned the corner yet, but we can touch it.

Although, in Freo's case, a win would have put them in the 8. Not quite a top side but a good one still. Next week we'll soon know more about that corner. Win somehow and we are into this up to our necks. Be 7 wins from 16, better than last year's 7 from 17.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #115 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
Before last night's game I believed that our lapses in concentration were caused by so much effort being used for very poor results on the scoreboard and physical fatigue setting in.

But last night was different.  For once we kicked accurately and Freo didn't.  We still looked fresh going into the halftime break but when the third quarter started it looked as though the players had spent the break smoking weed. Our mid field disappeared and too many players became spectators.  In  the main it was our backline and Freo's bad kicking that had us in front at three quarter time.

What worries me when we have these lapses is that we do dumb things without being under pressure.  The turnovers by foot quickly appear and lack of confidence just lowers our ability to put pressure back on the opposition.

Clearly mental attitude is a factor but I don't know how to improve it.

I'm so pleased with the win but...

Freo's kicking for goal has been as bad as ours, really their forward line is a shambles and they were missing Taberner
who is their best option and has done ok on Weitering. Treacy is a newbie kid and Lobb is a disappointing player given his talent.
Walters is also off the boil and I though Stocker stitched him up nicely, not sure how Freo ever got into a position to be challenging for the eight this week because they are a very ordinary team IMO with a very ordinary coach.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #116 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Freo's kicking for goal has been as bad as ours, really their forward line is a shambles and they were missing Taberner
who is their best option and has done ok on Weitering. Treacy is a newbie kid and Lobb is a disappointing player given his talent.
Walters is also off the boil and I though Stocker stitched him up nicely, not sure how Freo ever got into a position to be challenging for the eight this week because they are a very ordinary team IMO with a very ordinary coach.
 Agreed, gave Stocker a vote, regardless of Walters' form it's a scalp Stocker deserves credit for.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #117 –
re: Eddie, been going ok but looking forward we need him to be nurturing an apprentice like he did at the Crows with Cameron.
Owies is a different type of player as is Fisher IMO and I'd like to see Eddie with a permanent apprentice like Durdin in the team who he can train up and fast track in the art of reading the play and creating for others...its the latter bit that makes Eddie so good IMO.The little tap ons, kicks around the corner when under pressure that find a man and knowing when to zig and not zag when you have a stoppage. A lot of it is natural talent like Cameron has anyway but Durdin has the raw tools with pace and nice kicking ability but just needs Eddie to teach him some smarts before Eddie gives it away.

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #118 –
Quote from: laj – on
He's kicked 20 in his his last 9 games. At nearly 35yo that is great going.

At any age, that is very good going.

At 35, extraordinary - but that is the incomparable Mr Betts.

Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #119 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
re: Eddie, been going ok but looking forward we need him to be nurturing an apprentice like he did at the Crows with Cameron.
Owies is a different type of player as is Fisher IMO and I'd like to see Eddie with a permanent apprentice like Durdin in the team who he can train up and fast track in the art of reading the play and creating for others...its the latter bit that makes Eddie so good IMO.The little tap ons, kicks around the corner when under pressure that find a man and knowing when to zig and not zag when you have a stoppage. A lot of it is natural talent like Cameron has anyway but Durdin has the raw tools with pace and nice kicking ability but just needs Eddie to teach him some smarts before Eddie gives it away.

Durdin can't kick a goal in the 2s presently.

Owies did a lengthy apprenticeship, so should any other aspiring type?
Finals, then 4 in a row!