Carlton Supporters Club

FWIW, Patrick Cripps is =20th in free kicks for this year. He did miss over half the game on the weekend (which works out to be 1/8th less potential time on ground than others.

Could write three pages on how bad that was, the wheels completely fell off and to add insult to injury, not one of our players wanted to put them back on.

Way to complacent, a refusal to tackle & chase, too much finger pointing to a team-mate to instruct them to mind an opponent ........ I could go on !!

This game showed up a number of players as frauds and not being prepared to fight when the game was on the line. Don't get me wrong, the Suns played well and thoroughly deserved to win but we were barely competitive after quarter time, no-one wanted to take ownership and fight it out, pathetic really.

Setterfield ......... FFS, banish this bloke to the magoos forever, looks like Tarzan but plays like a pre-school ballerina.

Fisher ..... running around on the spot spectating, may as well taken the ground with a deckchair and some binoculars.

Fogerty ..... supposedly Cats fans were upset to lose him, I bet they don't want him back now, here's a subtle hint for you Lachie - lay multiple tackles and apply some forward 50 pressure, otherwise, go back to the quilting classes.

Walsh .... had 28 disposals ........ bugger me, I struggled to see any of them, he is not even half the player we know he should be.

McKay .... 4 marks & 7 kicks for the tallest player on the ground who then copped a $1K fine for staging ..... get out the viagra eye-drops and stand in front of a mirror, time for you take a long hard look at yourself.

Plowman ........ WTF does the match committee, coaching staff & a selective section of the supporter base see in this clown ?? He is the biggest liability on the list, banish him to the Ukraine where he spend his hours running around dodging Russians instead of opposition players.

De Koning ....... qualified as a Life Member of Mensa with his attempt to touch that set shot at goal by standing 5-metres inside the field of play instead of starting off behind the goal umpire.

Martin ......... we don't want to see your highlights reel, we just want to see the whole meat & potatoes stuff, I've said it before and I'm confirming it again here, this guy is a bone-fide overpaid dud, come at me !!!

Kennedy ........ you were given a golden opportunity to stamp your individual presence on a game with Cripps going off injured,  I don't care how good you have been in previous weeks, this was your time to show genuine leadership and lead the midfield, you failed the exam miserably.

Cerra ........... paid the big bucks but with no discernable impact on the match, I'll cut you some slack this one and only time, never ever put up another crap-show like that again.

Newman ...... who the feck do you think you are, Hulk Hogan or King Kong Bundy ?? Fancy wrestling with that midget Ainswerth and then giving away a 50-m penalty that resulted in a certain goal - your papers are stamped now son !!!

One of the few players that genuinely earnt his pay packet was Lochie O'Brien and I'm certainly no fan of his. He was not afraid to tackle, chase, bump or at one stage, go up in the ruck, he was bleeding for the jumper even though he has some serious limitations, some of his team-mates should have been embarrassed to look him in the eye.

And Charlie Curnow ...... take your screwing time when having a set-shot for goal, OOTF does us no favours at all. 

I don't really have much to say apart from very disappointing but entirely predictable after Fogarty replaced Pittonet 

I was critical of Boyd in the previous game and didn't think a lot of his pre-season efforts.  However, I thought that he played quite well, used the ball pretty well and certainly wasn't among our poorer players on Sunday.  That said, I'm not entirely sure whether his presence helps our defensive set up.  I guess it depends on the sort of player he is set to defend.

Some fair points there brother Lucifer and yep O'Brien showed more spirit than a few of his better paid teammates and wants to stay on the list.
If some of our defenders could actually defend instead of getting useless cheap possessions it might help too.

Could write three pages on how bad that was, the wheels completely fell off and to add insult to injury, not one of our players wanted to put them back on.

Way to complacent, a refusal to tackle & chase, too much finger pointing to a team-mate to instruct them to mind an opponent ........ I could go on !!

This game showed up a number of players as frauds and not being prepared to fight when the game was on the line. Don't get me wrong, the Suns played well and thoroughly deserved to win but we were barely competitive after quarter time, no-one wanted to take ownership and fight it out, pathetic really.

Setterfield ......... FFS, banish this bloke to the magoos forever, looks like Tarzan but plays like a pre-school ballerina.

Fisher ..... running around on the spot spectating, may as well taken the ground with a deckchair and some binoculars.

Fogerty ..... supposedly Cats fans were upset to lose him, I bet they don't want him back now, here's a subtle hint for you Lachie - lay multiple tackles and apply some forward 50 pressure, otherwise, go back to the quilting classes.

Walsh .... had 28 disposals ........ bugger me, I struggled to see any of them, he is not even half the player we know he should be.

McKay .... 4 marks & 7 kicks for the tallest player on the ground who then copped a $1K fine for staging ..... get out the viagra eye-drops and stand in front of a mirror, time for you take a long hard look at yourself.

Plowman ........ WTF does the match committee, coaching staff & a selective section of the supporter base see in this clown ?? He is the biggest liability on the list, banish him to the Ukraine where he spend his hours running around dodging Russians instead of opposition players.

De Koning ....... qualified as a Life Member of Mensa with his attempt to touch that set shot at goal by standing 5-metres inside the field of play instead of starting off behind the goal umpire.

Martin ......... we don't want to see your highlights reel, we just want to see the whole meat & potatoes stuff, I've said it before and I'm confirming it again here, this guy is a bone-fide overpaid dud, come at me !!!

Kennedy ........ you were given a golden opportunity to stamp your individual presence on a game with Cripps going off injured,  I don't care how good you have been in previous weeks, this was your time to show genuine leadership and lead the midfield, you failed the exam miserably.

Cerra ........... paid the big bucks but with no discernable impact on the match, I'll cut you some slack this one and only time, never ever put up another crap-show like that again.

Newman ...... who the feck do you think you are, Hulk Hogan or King Kong Bundy ?? Fancy wrestling with that midget Ainswerth and then giving away a 50-m penalty that resulted in a certain goal - your papers are stamped now son !!!

One of the few players that genuinely earnt his pay packet was Lochie O'Brien and I'm certainly no fan of his. He was not afraid to tackle, chase, bump or at one stage, go up in the ruck, he was bleeding for the jumper even though he has some serious limitations, some of his team-mates should have been embarrassed to look him in the eye.

And Charlie Curnow ...... take your screwing time when having a set-shot for goal, OOTF does us no favours at all. 

EB, I made the point on another thread....most of our best players were defenders....but who was on Rosas? Playing about his 6th game, kicked 3 goals and made us look stupid. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Plowman on him.....he was too busy watching Lukosius waltz away from him. It might've been Newman....who, IMO, is having a very ordinary season and wouldn't surprise me to see him dropped this week and replaced with Stocker down back. We'll need someone to man up on Robbie Gray.

Most of our defenders kick chase and prefer to rebound, reckon you are right that it could have been Newman on Rosas and I'd drop him this week if that was the case, you add in that woeful 50m penalty he gave away and he had a shocker.
Stocker I would bring in for Boyd who was better than his debut game but I dont want to see him picking up Robbie Gray, Rozee, Butters etc....

I don't really have much to say apart from very disappointing but entirely predictable after Fogarty replaced Pittonet 

I was critical of Boyd in the previous game and didn't think a lot of his pre-season efforts.  However, I thought that he played quite well, used the ball pretty well and certainly wasn't among our poorer players on Sunday.  That said, I'm not entirely sure whether his presence helps our defensive set up.  I guess it depends on the sort of player he is set to defend.

The only disposal i remember Boyd having was in the first quarter when he kicked to the wing, it was a mung floater and i thought, here we go again.

For an 'elite' ball user, he has put in some woeful efforts by foot.

The only disposal i remember Boyd having was in the first quarter when he kicked to the wing, it was a mung floater and i thought, here we go again.

For an 'elite' ball user, he has put in some woeful efforts by foot.

In fact, he used the ball pretty well all game and 75% of his disposals were effective.  Compare that with Weitering - 50%, Williams - 72%, Newman - 75%, Docherty - 83%, Saad - 78%, Young - 82% and Plowman - 89%.

What concerns me more about Boyd is his inability to impact contests; he's not particularly fast, he's not tall and doesn't outmark opponents, and he's not strong enough to outbody any but the smallest opposition players.  He did show some footy smarts but, if he's going to get a regular game, his disposal efficiency has to be well into the 80% mark.

There are a few you will offend here with that kind of talk, I'm sure LP will be one of them.

So I'll try a short version.

Effective disposal stat's are not accurate. Best way to be effective is to kick long to a contest and you will be at 100%. It bares little resemblance to how good a player is using the ball

Add to the fact he had the least amount of contested possessions on the ground, thus under the least amount of pressure.