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Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #75 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I had this game down as a definite win but, for the first time this season, I don’t think we will win 🙁
 
Stop making early excuses, and don't disrespect Wet Toast because they are a much better team now than they were just 3 weeks ago.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #76 –
Quote from: LP – on

Stop making early excuses, and don't disrespect Wet Toast because they are a much better team now than they were just 3 weeks ago.

What early excuses?

The MC stuffed up when they picked the team for last round and they did it again this round.

West Coast have gone with a smallish forward line and our six defenders in the 18 match up quite well, but who is our seventh defender?  If it's Sam Durdin, who does he play on and how does he walk straight back into the 22?  Kemp and Stocker are well ahead of Durdin and both are better suited to playing against the West Coast forwards.  If we persist with Newnes as our seventh defender, the West Coast small forwards will have a day out.

Owies coming back into the 18 is a no brainer but how does Hayes get a spot in the extended squad?  His form in the magoos has been average at best.

The bench is likely to be Cerra, Corey Durdin, Fisher and Newnes, so no seventh defender.  If Sam Durdin is the sub, it can only be that there's doubts about Weitering's fitness.  I expect Setterfield to be the sub and that rounds out the weakest and least balanced team we've put on the park all season.

I hope I'm wrong, but West Coast looks stronger on paper and their form is improving ominously.





 








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Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #77 –
Quote from: DJC – on
What early excuses?

The MC stuffed up when they picked the team for last round and they did it again this round.

West Coast have gone with a smallish forward line and our six defenders in the 18 match up quite well, but who is our seventh defender?  If it's Sam Durdin, who does he play on and how does he walk straight back into the 22?  Kemp and Stocker are well ahead of Durdin and both are better suited to playing against the West Coast forwards.  If we persist with Newnes as our seventh defender, the West Coast small forwards will have a day out.

Owies coming back into the 18 is a no brainer but how does Hayes get a spot in the extended squad?  His form in the magoos has been average at best.

The bench is likely to be Cerra, Corey Durdin, Fisher and Newnes, so no seventh defender.  If Sam Durdin is the sub, it can only be that there's doubts about Weitering's fitness.  I expect Setterfield to be the sub and that rounds out the weakest and least balanced team we've put on the park all season.

I hope I'm wrong, but West Coast looks stronger on paper and their form is improving ominously.





 









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Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #78 –
One of the aspects of having a number of injuries is that it throws an extra burden on the remaining players.
They not only have to perform their own roles but pick up the extra slack caused by a missing team-mate.
That's not such a difficult task for a week or two.
But if it's an increasing injury list over an extended period that eventually wears a side (and individuals) down.

So we need to look not just at the injury list but how players are coping with the extra responsibilities.
Just as a example, Jack Silvagni is a player who gives 110%.
He bleeds Navy Blue.
He can perform multiple roles and as such is a valuable asset.
But he's starting to show signs of a bit of wear and tear, both in his general play and his frustration levels (Opposition players just want to get in blues with him.)
That's probably playing out to some extent across the squad.
It's why games like West Coast will be challenging whatever the repective ladder positions.


Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #79 –
Perhaps Tall Durds has been named so he can take up a key tall post down back, releasing Young into the ruck changing with TDK enabling SOJ to focus on his forward game?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #80 –
I suspect the BlueBaggers who front up against the Weagles will be very different to the group who fckd up against the Aints.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #81 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I suspect the BlueBaggers who front up against the Weagles will be very different to the group who fckd up against the Aints.
Speriamo
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #82 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I suspect the BlueBaggers who front up against the Weagles will be very different to the group who fckd up against the Aints.

They better. Got the Cats 5 days later....

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #84 –
Quote from: DJC – on
What early excuses?

The MC stuffed up when they picked the team for last round and they did it again this round.

Curious. What did they stuff up last round?

I'm not sure where your recent obsession with 7 defenders comes from.

There is probably only 4-5 defenders and 'mids' making up the last couple spots anyway.

Saad and Docherty can and have both played on the wing previously to great effect.
So swapping a Cottrel/Lob into that '7' is easy enough to do as well.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #85 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Ripper... learned a new word! Like it.
My old man used say you learn something every day, its true you know.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #86 –
Baggers I had exactly the same thought about Sam Durdin possibly playing down back and allowing Young to ruck in tandem with TDK. Young has been fantastic down back and would be difficult to remove him...and Durdin played one game before being injured. Darling would be a tough match up for him.

Natanui didn't dominate last week in his first game back but he is a huge bloke and represents a big danger. Also not sure who the 3rd tall defender is that goes to Waterman. He looked dangerous early last week. Have seen him dominate in a few WAFL games this year. He's a strong mark for a bloke who's not overly tall.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #87 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
Natanui didn't dominate last week in his first game back but he is a huge bloke and represents a big danger.
iirc, One of TDK's very early games was against Nic Nat and against the odds, and against the predictions of all the various AFL media, TDK did very well!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #88 –
Correct LP....that was over here about 3-4 years ago when he rucked on his own.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #89 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
Correct LP....that was over here about 3-4 years ago when he rucked on his own.
Yep, I think Pitto played but got injured leaving TDK to go solo for the remainder.

I think I even gave TDK some votes for the effort.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"