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Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #135 –
Fogs tackle and clearance work has been at a high standard at VFL and would like to see him get his chance.
Look a little short in the backline to be honest.
Would like to see Charlie take Jacks role and play the link man and use his tank.
Play TDK FF
Small forwards need to pressure and create goals - this game is too hard for them

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #136 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Fogs tackle and clearance work has been at a high standard at VFL and would like to see him get his chance.
Look a little short in the backline to be honest.
Would like to see Charlie take Jacks role and play the link man and use his tank.
Play TDK FF
Small forwards need to pressure and create goals - this game is too hard for them

Agree...McGovern or Kemp have to take Mclean and I dont like that size mismatch...I would have kept Young in and dropped McGovern.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #137 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Agree...McGovern or Kemp have to take Mclean and I dont like that size mismatch...I would have kept Young in and dropped McGovern.
Maybe they'll spring a surprise and play TDK at CHB and McGovern forward?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #138 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Reckon he will be at Stkilda next season...

SOS doesn’t like to admit that he got it wrong 🙂

Dow may have had 40 touches in the VFL last week but he had minimal impact on the game.

It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #139 –
Quote from: DJC – on
SOS doesn’t like to admit that he got it wrong 🙂

Dow may have had 40 touches in the VFL last week but he had minimal impact on the game.


No doubt, he is going to pull every lever he can to have the last laugh on us and he will try and recruit some of his handywork to prove a point. Not sure if Dow is going to be a win for him though unless Lenny Hayes can unlock the reason why he struggles so much at senior level.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #140 –
Quote from: DJC – on
SOS doesn’t like to admit that he got it wrong 🙂

Dow may have had 40 touches in the VFL last week but he had minimal impact on the game.



He will fit right in with Cripps and co.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #142 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
He will fit right in with Cripps and co.
That not quite fair, they have a high impact, Cripps in particular, but in terms of applying defensive pressure they are limited by their available pace.

I'm surprised we chopped SoJ and not Motlop, for me SoJ can play Motlop's role but Motlop cannot play SoJ role.

Rather than have SoJ play as a lead-up marking target I'd have asked him to hunt stoppages and contests as a defensive forward. But he has to be prepared to tackle to hurt players which might mean a week off occasionally.

For me, other than Harry or Charlie, Owies or Kennedy are the next best lead-up forward targets.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #144 –
Quote from: LP – on
That not quite fair, they have a high impact, Cripps in particular, but in terms of applying defensive pressure they are limited by their available pace.

I'm surprised we chopped SoJ and not Motlop, for me SoJ can play Motlop's role but Motlop cannot play SoJ role.

Rather than have SoJ play as a lead-up marking target I'd have asked him to hunt stoppages and contests as a defensive forward. But he has to be prepared to tackle to hurt players which might mean a week off occasionally.

For me, other than Harry or Charlie, Owies or Kennedy are the next best lead-up forward targets.

JSOS is way too slow to be a small forward, defenders would be running off him... big time.

TDK for JSOS is very logical. You feel for JSOS, he's kind of in no man's land. He's not really a terrific 3rd tall... not a Breust or Gunston, or a Fritsch and so on. Too slow for defence as well. He does have a great footy IQ and relentless desire/effort. If we didn't have a glut of inside mids, that'd be his position. Sadly, JSOS may well do well elsewhere... as an inside mid.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #145 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
JSOS is way too slow to be a small forward, defenders would be running off him... big time.

TDK for JSOS is very logical. You feel for JSOS, he's kind of in no man's land. He's not really a terrific 3rd tall... not a Breust or Gunston, or a Fritsch and so on. Too slow for defence as well. He does have a great footy IQ and relentless desire/effort. If we didn't have a glut of inside mids, that'd be his position. Sadly, JSOS may well do well elsewhere... as an inside mid.

He's been used as 'cannon fodder' for the last couple of years.
I can understand the argument for playing him as a second ruck, and the ability to have an option for an extra mid.
But the downside to that strategy is the toll on takes on Jack.
He won't complain of course.
He'll put his head down and give a 100% of his ability....limited though it is, to some extent, compared to other more talented players.
He can't settle into a role or position, he's just used as a workhorse...but realistically that is probably what is giving him game time.
I suspect he'll be the sub tonight.
He offers that versatility.
But if he isn't I hope a couple of weeks in the VFL with a solid well defined role freshens him up.
He's still a fringe player, but if the only way he gets a game is as a back-up ruckman, a move at season's end may be his best career option.
Not at St Kilda...that would be a huge mistake for both father and son.
I think he'd go well at a team like the Gold Coast or GWS...or even down the track with the new Tasmanian side (should it ever get past the planning stage)
Away from the scrutiny it might be good for player or club.
They'd benefit from a player who's prepared to sacrifice and do the hard stuff for the benefit of the side...it would add a bit of positive culture.
Just at the moment his future is a bit in limbo.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #146 –
Many of us understand that discussions re JSOS and his place in the club being under scrutiny might be somewhat annoying. Afterall, he comes from Bluebagger royalty. But... if we imagine his name is Cyril McGillacutty, we can be more objective, and success demands objectivity.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #147 –
There are a few names that are royalty at Princes Park and the thought of SOJ running around in other colours doesn't thrill me what so ever. I'm still getting over Jezza and more recently Waite leaving us.
SOJ plays his best ball as the 3rd tall in the fwd line. And our fwd line operates better when he is there because he has to attract a decent backman. Running him around as a ruckman does his game no benefit.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #148 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Many of us understand that discussions re JSOS and his place in the club being under scrutiny might be somewhat annoying. Afterall, he comes from Bluebagger royalty. But... if we imagine his name is Cyril McGillacutty, we can be more objective, and success demands objectivity.

Correct ........... if his name was Jack Shiitt we would be looking at him through a completely different lens.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #149 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Correct ........... if his name was Jack Shiitt we would be looking at him through a completely different lens.

A sad reality.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17