Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #15 – July 16, 2023, 03:02:30 pm Quote from: LP – on July 16, 2023, 11:10:56 amDidn't Boyd release the opponent before he hit the deck?There is a huge difference between pinning an arm and slinging them with two actions to the ground, and the opponent collapsing under a pure tackle despite being released before hitting the deck.I suspect MRO will charge Boyd, which is what the AFL want to do to avoid long term liability, and we'll appeal and he'll get off. Fans have to remember, many umpires and tribunal officials are lawyers or judges by day!The bloke was concussed as a result of the tackle, EOS. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #16 – July 16, 2023, 04:27:17 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 16, 2023, 03:02:30 pmThe bloke was concussed as a result of the tackle, EOS.Even so, they are umpiring and adjudicating based on a legal liability, not on a specific act. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #17 – July 16, 2023, 06:05:45 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 16, 2023, 03:02:30 pmThe bloke was concussed as a result of the tackle, EOS.Kosi ran into an umpire and got concussed. Was that the umpires fault? Did he get suspended??We need to stop convicted people based on outcomes and rather on the act.Wasn't even a free kick, certainly shouldn't be suspended. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #18 – July 16, 2023, 06:17:32 pm Quote from: kruddler – on July 16, 2023, 06:05:45 pmKosi ran into an umpire and got concussed. Was that the umpires fault? Did he get suspended??We need to stop convicted people based on outcomes and rather on the act.Wasn't even a free kick, certainly shouldn't be suspended.errr, pretty sure a free kick was paid and a goal was scored? Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #19 – July 16, 2023, 06:46:47 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 16, 2023, 03:02:30 pmThe bloke was concussed as a result of the tackle, EOS.Agree..Think it will be the duty of care to land the player safely and given it was a concussion and Byrne Jones will miss games its going to be a suspension imo. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #20 – July 16, 2023, 06:53:49 pm Quote from: rocky – on July 16, 2023, 06:17:32 pmerrr, pretty sure a free kick was paid and a goal was scored?I know a free was paid. I'm just saying it wasn't even worthy of a free kick.Free kicks get paid all the time, doesn't mean they are there.I saw a free kick paid for high contact when a swinging arm was launched at Camporeales head back in the day. He responded by holding his jaw. Replay shows the arm never got within 20cm of any part of his body, but he a free kick was paid. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #21 – July 16, 2023, 06:56:27 pm Boyd referred straight to the Tribunal. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #22 – July 16, 2023, 09:43:19 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 16, 2023, 06:56:27 pm Boyd referred straight to the Tribunal.A week’s holiday at best. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #23 – July 17, 2023, 12:55:29 am Boyd unlucky because it was the perfect hard tackle. Maybe players should wear cycle-like helmets that Caleb Daniel wears as mandatory because the game is getting faster. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #24 – July 17, 2023, 07:13:13 am Quote from: pinot – on July 17, 2023, 12:55:29 amBoyd unlucky because it was the perfect hard tackle. Maybe players should wear cycle-like helmets that Caleb Daniel wears as mandatory because the game is getting faster.Helmets don't stop concussions, the mechanism inside the skull still occurs when the head takes a knock whether you are wearing a helmet or not. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #25 – July 17, 2023, 07:44:17 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 17, 2023, 07:13:13 amHelmets don't stop concussions, the mechanism inside the skull still occurs when the head takes a knock whether you are wearing a helmet or not.Not entirely true.Its the sudden stop that forces the brain to move inside the skull.If the stop is less sudden, courtesy of some kind of cushioning (be that a helmet, or an air bag, or even the crumple zone on a car) then the force on the brain is less, thus less chance of a concussion. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #26 – July 17, 2023, 08:02:20 am Boyd will get three, EOS. Dusty should too.I suspect we'll box on with a makeshift forward line but gees it would be nice to have some young talls developing in the twos just in case, the few we have (Lemmy then crickets) look years off. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #27 – July 17, 2023, 10:22:36 am Quote from: Professer E – on July 17, 2023, 08:02:20 amBoyd will get three, EOS. Dusty should too.I suspect we'll box on with a makeshift forward line but gees it would be nice to have some young talls developing in the twos just in case, the few we have (Lemmy then crickets) look years off.Crickets first for me at this stage.Not impressed by Lemmy - looks too stiff in his movements. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #28 – July 17, 2023, 10:46:41 am Quote from: RiverRat – on July 17, 2023, 10:22:36 amCrickets first for me at this stage.Not impressed by Lemmy - looks too stiff in his movements.Yep, miles off.Almost certain Pitto comes in and not much other change subject to Boyd going out, perhaps opportunity for Cowan. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 19 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast at marvel Reply #29 – July 17, 2023, 10:57:18 am I would give Dow a full game and make Cripps sub, use him if required. Quote Selected