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Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #30 –
Need to give a youngster a debut imo - maybe Moir in a Jack Martin role and see how he goes

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Williams will play if he gets through training

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I thought he’d need another week.

Which defender makes way for him; Cincotta?
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #32 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Need to give a youngster a debut imo - maybe Moir in a Jack Martin role and see how he goes

Moir has impressed me but has he done enough to earn a game?

I think Binns is well ahead of Moir in the debut ranks.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #34 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Moir has impressed me but has he done enough to earn a game?

I think Binns is well ahead of Moir in the debut ranks.
Someone on BF suggested they heard a "brave" call will be made. Maybe its Moir, maybe its Williams.
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #35 –
Zac Williams is a definite starter if he gets through training. Good to see him back.

B: Kemp    Young   Newman
HB: Williams   Gov   Saad
W: Acres     Cerra    Docherty
HF : Cunners  McKay  Fogarty
F: Owies    Charlie    Fantasia
R: TDK    Cripps   Hewett
IC: Kennedy Ollie Boyd  Cottrell (Binns sub) 

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #36 –
Apparently Voss has confirmed Williams, you may recall what I said from pre-season observations, so I am not surprised.

Pre-season form is rubber, but fitness and frame size can't be faked, you have to do the work to get the look. Williams looks like he is cut from granite at the moment, let's hope good form follows.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #37 –
Quote from: LP – on
Apparently Voss has confirmed Williams, you may recall what I said from pre-season observations, so I am not surprised.

Pre-season form is rubber, but fitness and frame size can't be faked, you have to do the work to get the look. Williams looks like he is cut from granite at the moment, let's hope good form follows.

There is no substitute for match fitness though.

Remember when Cousins made his miraculous return with the tigers. Could've won some Mr Universe events with his physique. A friend of mine commented that he looked 'too big and too good' and that he will get injured.
He last 3 quarters of the opening game before *PING* went the hammy.

Don't be fooled by beach muscles.

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #38 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
There is no substitute for match fitness though.

Remember when Cousins made his miraculous return with the tigers. Could've won some Mr Universe events with his physique. A friend of mine commented that he looked 'too big and too good' and that he will get injured.
He last 3 quarters of the opening game before *PING* went the hammy.

Don't be fooled by beach muscles.

Williams has been pretty active in our match sims, even before he officially finished his rehab.

I doubt whether he would be in the side if Vossy and the Terrier had any doubts about his ability to compete for the entire game.  It's not as if there's no competition for spots in the backline.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #39 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Don't be fooled by beach muscles.
There is a difference between pumping iron and looking the way Williams did in pre-season, and also Martin on his return last year, bulk by pumping iron doesn't give you that lean hard shredded appearance.

The only way body builders and weight lifters get that same lean hard half starving look is by dehydrating. AFL players can't do that as they wouldn't last a quarter, maybe that was the Cousin's cheat, but by then Cousins was an old man, old before his time!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #40 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Zac Williams is a definite starter if he gets through training. Good to see him back.

B: Kemp    Young   Newman
HB: Williams   Gov   Saad
W: Acres     Cerra    Docherty
HF : Cunners  McKay  Fogarty
F: Owies    Charlie    Fantasia
R: TDK    Cripps   Hewett
IC: Kennedy Ollie Boyd  Cottrell (Binns sub) 
TDK and H as the rucks you reckon.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #41 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
TDK and H as the rucks you reckon.

Yeah I think so. If we are going to beat them then we need a team that can run and win their own footy and more rotations the better.

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Reply #42 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Yeah I think so. If we are going to beat them then we need a team that can run and win their own footy and more rotations the better.
I cant help but think we need Pitto AND TDK to really work OMac over. It worked well in the PF for a large part of the game.
Im sure one day TDK will be the solo big dog in the Ruck for us like OMac and Gawn. From what I have seen of Tom to date, he isn't there yet and the 1-2 combo of him and Pitto is what works best for us right now. We'll know by roughly this time in 3 nights.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #43 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I cant help but think we need Pitto AND TDK to really work OMac over. It worked well in the PF for a large part of the game.
Im sure one day TDK will be the solo big dog in the Ruck for us like OMac and Gawn. From what I have seen of Tom to date, he isn't there yet and the 1-2 combo of him and Pitto is what works best for us right now. We'll know by roughly this time in 3 nights.
I reckon you are right GTC but the success of Joe Daniher, Mason Cox etc as key forwards who can ruck means other clubs have to try and emulate what is on trend so we have to try it too with Harry and given he has played the role in the practice games Id expect us to go in with only TDK as a bonafide ruckman. When Nankervis or the like knee Harry in the guts/nuts or he does a knee they will probably figure out its not going to work so well for us and Pittonet will return. I thought the idea of Pittonet doing the heavy lifting and softening up the opposing No1 ruck early so TDK could come in later and use his athletic prowess to take over games was working fine..

Re: AFL Rd 0R 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Brisbane v Carlton

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I cant help but think we need Pitto AND TDK to really work OMac over. It worked well in the PF for a large part of the game.
Im sure one day TDK will be the solo big dog in the Ruck for us like OMac and Gawn. From what I have seen of Tom to date, he isn't there yet and the 1-2 combo of him and Pitto is what works best for us right now. We'll know by roughly this time in 3 nights.

Daniher will ruck and fully expect Harry to relieve ruck against him as .. TDK needs to beat Oscar around the ground and give him a 5-7minute spell every quarter. Our big worry is their run and ball players if we cant keep up with their ball movement and limit the supply to our backline then we are good as done... game will be won on the ground with run imo.