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Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #15 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Well there's something you don't see everyday. :D

Chris Scott basically in 'awe' of Carlton at the presser. ;)
I saw it but I didn't believe it.
He has an agenda whenever he opens his mouth.
Just trying to work out what it is!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #16 –
A complete performance against a good club. While our stars shone bright, it was the "team first" - "your turn to go" that trumped all.
They have trust in the coaches and their mates. We've found depth despite injuries. We have nailed the previously elusive cohesion.

Congratulations to all involved.

Go Blues. Go to #ell green one's
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #17 –
Apart from a little lapse in the 3rd, as complete a performance as I have seen in a very long time from a Carlton side. Geelong may have an ageing list but they still have plenty of talented match winners and are very well coached. Anyone who thinks that was anything less than a complete destroyation of a very side is kidding themselves. The pressure and ferocity of our team (to a man) was enormous and the coaching group outreached a bloke with a 70 odd % win record, take a bow Vossy.
As for the Skipper, it was a monstrous performance from the big fella, he will sleep well tonight.
I guess the ladder really doesn't lie.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #18 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
So.....anyone still think we need 2 rucks in the team? Anyone??

Didn't think so.

We played a team with no rucks tonight.  Two rucks will be the way to go against teams with two rucks or the likes of Max Gawn.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #19 –
I believe that we should be asking the AFL to cancel Jeremy Cameron’s play on after the siren goal.  It was a blatant umpiring error and there was no subsequent play so cancelling it is the right thing to do.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #20 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I believe that we should be asking the AFL to cancel Jeremy Cameron’s play on after the siren goal.  It was a blatant umpiring error and there was no subsequent play so cancelling it is the right thing to do.
Nah, Laura Kane will come and tell us that the natural arc of run up plus the angle of the dangle minus pi squared divided by the price of fish in China clearly demonstrates the umpire got it 110% correct.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #21 –
How about the 50 against McKay compared to the Collingwood one last week?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #22 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on

Apart from Fantasia who should never grace the seniors again, it was a terrific all-round team effort.


I thought it was his best performance for the season.  Low bar, I know, but it was an improved performance.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #23 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
We won games without a ruck last year.
What's their excuse?
Yes, also 10 of our 15 wins in 2023 came with two rucks, short memory? :o

I reiterate, regardless of win or loss, as a measure of ruck strategy or ruck effectiveness, a game with one ruck versus no rucks is not the game to use as a gauge.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #24 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
So.....anyone still think we need 2 rucks in the team? Anyone??

Didn't think so.
Actually, Krud, we have a real problem with our 2nd ruck. Rucking Cripps and Kennedy is not sustainable against a decent team. They try hard, they're strong and they can come up with a few moments of magic, but it is a real weakness in our game.

What the solution may be, I don't know yet. I like Pittonet and what he brings to the team, but Tom de Koning has really pulled up his socks with the #1 role.
That said, Tom isn't a great ruckman. He won tonight because Geelong were stupid enough not to play a real ruckman against him. They paid and paid and paid for that stupidity. How they didn't play Conway, I don't know. Conway would have evened up the midfield with his strength and taps, even though Tom would slaughter him around the ground.
But, no, they had to try SdK and Blicavs. Blicavs wasn't disgraced in the ruck, but it meant he could do roles he would be better armed to do. It was idiocy, and I'm glad they paid they full price.
But that doesn't excuse us to thinking of doing the same thing.

If Harry Lemmey had come on a bit, I would have liked to tried him in the role. However, he isn't close to it at the moment.

What is the answer? Maybe we will need to play Pitto as well as Tom. Tom has already shown that his ruck work is his least strong area, for all his athleticism. Start Pitto and sub his off late, having a fitter Tom to finish off?
Maybe. But it is a conundrum we need to address. Especially before we play Collingwood or Sydney.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #25 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone – on
You bloody beauty! Not sure what I enjoyed more - absolutely smashing the AFL’s love child or hearing the crestfallen tone in the Ch 7 commentators voices.

Did you know Carlton have scored more goals from free kicks than any other side?
MORE GOALS FROM FREE KICKS THAN ANY OTHER SIDE!
It may be true, but how many more could have been paid and haven't? That is a stat I'd like to see.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #26 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I believe that we should be asking the AFL to cancel Jeremy Cameron’s play on after the siren goal.  It was a blatant umpiring error and there was no subsequent play so cancelling it is the right thing to do.
That was remarkably poor and needs investigation and sanction. That goal should not stand.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #27 –
As good as the ruck looked tonight against near zero opposition, for me the story of the night was the difference in pressure our SFs delivered, even Fantasia was passable, and it was clearly the major difference between Rnd 7 and tonight. They never got an easy exit from our F50, and they got the fumbles from being constantly under pressure.

The Owies tackle on Tuohy, just superb, Owies best game for the club by some margin!

I posed the question in the pre-game thread, could we play Cincotta as a tagger on Stewart, Tuohy or Guthrie? Yes we can!

Fancy thinking that if a team made Stewart accountable it could pay off! :o

Was tonight our 1st genuine 4-Qtr effort for the season, even for a couple of brief periods when we lost momentum, we never stopped applying the pressure?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #28 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
I thought it was his best performance for the season.  Low bar, I know, but it was an improved performance.
Agree.

The obvious choice is Martin in, OF out as it appears OF has been playing a high HF linking role.
Cerra in, Kennedy to sub. Durdin out.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #29 –
Quote from: pertz – on
I saw it but I didn't believe it.
He has an agenda whenever he opens his mouth.
Just trying to work out what it is!
How about he was giving credit where credit was due.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership