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Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #60 –
Newman is a good player for us but he needs to make sure he does not give away critical frees again this week as he did in the past couple of games.
Sorry to single him out but he has annoyed me with those in the past two games.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #61 –
I think the MC have tried to do the right thing by going back to the same type of formula we were using on a run last year.

Problem is this week we've dropped Kemp (with McGovern already missing) and are playing an injured Weitering.

I'd be much happier if we still had Kemp in the side, or even as a sub.

Otherwise, very happy to see Hewett and Motlop in and cunners back.
I'd personally have Cottrell as the sub from that lot. But would've chose kemp.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #62 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Newman is a good player for us but he needs to make sure he does not give away critical frees again this week as he did in the past couple of games.
Sorry to single him out but he has annoyed me with those in the past two games.

Dont be sorry cookie i am exactly the same. Hes a good footballer who plays on the edge but there are times when he needs to tame things a little. Played selfish last week. 

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #63 –
If Weitering cops another corkie Larkey could kick a match winning bag
we have no one up our sleeve who could contain him.
But then again don’t think they have much to stop McKay or Curnow

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #64 –
Isn't it sad that because of the mental and physical fragility shown by our players in recent weeks we are entertaining the possibility of being beaten by a bottom feeder side instead of the discussion being upbeat and revolving around how many goals we will win by.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #65 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Our match committee and I often disagree, but it looks to me like we want to lose, as we've weakened our structure.
:o
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #66 –
Quote from: crashlander – on

Mattie Cottrell; How? Why? He needs to get a few games under his belt and a bit of confidence. He isn't in any role he might have on Sunday.
I think this and other decisions are made with finals in mind, we cannot afford to get a week or two out with too many players out of form.

The MC and coaches need time to sort things out.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #67 –
Time is probably running out for managing players and experimenting with structure.
We need to shore up a top four spot (preferably 2nd).
We don't want to be travelling to either Sydney, Brisbane or Perth.

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Reply #68 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Time is probably running out for managing players and experimenting with structure.
We need to shore up a top four spot (preferably 2nd).
We don't want to be travelling to either Sydney, Brisbane or Perth.
I replied to @crashlander in fairness to the MC, if not now when, we are playing a bottom side this week, if they needed to get a look at the problems now is probably the best time to put them on display, the Wet Toast in Perth might be another but that is late in the season at Rnd 22.

Fans assume omissions are about bad form, players getting "Dropped", but at this time of the season it's just as likely a week off for some that aren't a problem, with the MC signalling to those on the fringe now is the time to prove your worth.

The hypothetical,
"If you can't do it this week against a bottom side, how can we trust you to perform against finalists?"

All sides do this, when you get an unexpected loss the AFL media will label the club fatheads full of hubris, but they cop that no matter when or how it happens.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #69 –
Quote from: LP – on
I replied to @crashlander in fairness to the MC, if not now when, we are playing a bottom side this week, if they needed to get a look at the problems now is probably the best time to put them on display, the Wet Toast in Perth might be another but that is late in the season at Rnd 22.

Fans assume omissions are about bad form, players getting "Dropped", but it's just as likely a week off for some with the MC signalling to those on the fringe now is the time to prove your worth.

The hypothetical,
"If you can't do it this week against a bottom side, how can we trust you to perform against finalists?"
I do understand your thinking, but playing with your form can be lethal. It has happened to us too often in the past. It has also happened to other teams this year. If you underestimate an opponent, you may live to regret it. It is why I always want us to go for the throat. Winning form is good form.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #70 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
I do understand your thinking, but playing with your form can be lethal. It has happened to us too often in the past. It has also happened to other teams this year. If you underestimate an opponent, you may live to regret it. It is why I always want us to go for the throat. Winning form is good form.
Sorry @crashlander , got me before the edit was done.

When your list is deep and strong and performing sure I get it, but we've had patchy form over the last few weeks from several of our prime movers so our list isn't, so the accusation of playing with your form is wide of the mark. If anything we've recently returned to our old patchy qtr by qtr efforts, which isn't great.

This season, excluding a short segment of games, we've frequently limped across the line, which is a nice counterpoint to the last few seasons of falling agonisingly short. But it's still far from being on a roll!

We have some glaring holes that a single injury or opposition tactic might turn into a gaping chasm. Hope isn't going to get us across the line.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #71 –
How much of our selections this week have the 5 day break in mind??

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Reply #73 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Vossy wants to fix our defence and reward VFL form:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-2024-michael-voss-says-carlton-needs-to-fix-defence-quickly/news-story/f79ac14865dbe31d27d508f6de53d4f1

Pretty simple really …

Doesn't explain why he dropped Hewett.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #74 –
I get the impression that they couldn't accommodate both Hewett and Cerra, and decided to include the latter and omit the former. He states that Hewett has been " in great form throughout periods of this year" and went back and played well in the VFL, which to my reading sounds like a consistency issue, but it's not clear exactly what Voss means.