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Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #150 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Yep, it was weird.

It's not hindsight either I could find my posts questioning it.

I know i said it nice and early.

'NOW is the time you start resting players who have a niggle and get them right for finals.'

Quote from: kruddler – on
Kennedy made a miraculous recovery from having his leg amputating by a ruckman last week, but we should've rested him (unless Hewett is more injured) and we should swap that next week.
Get everyone right for finals.

Swap TDK and Pittonet next week and let TDKs ankle recover.

That was the Giants game....and i've probably said similar earlier.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #151 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I know i said it nice and early.

'NOW is the time you start resting players who have a niggle and get them right for finals.'

Back your depth.

TDK was injured, we have a very handy back up.

Cerra and Cottrell didn't need to find form in the seniors as we were flying without them.

If Charlie or Harry need a spell you play the 2 rucks.

So many options but we stuffed it because we got ahead of ourselves.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #153 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Need a win this weekend like our life depends on it - more so to settle everyone down after a long string of bad luck
Needed a win like their life depended on it on the weekend, the week before that, the week before that...
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #154 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Needed a win like their life depended on it on the weekend, the week before that, the week before that...
Let's hope a fresh group of players hits the game with some adrenaline. Then hope for the best.

Can't believe we sat 6pts clear in 2nd, then the week after kick 8.4 in the first qtr. I was sure a flag was right in our grasp as there was no one better than us. Fast forward 23 qtrs and that let down is just shattering.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #155 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
There's something about all this simplistic finger pointing that just doesn't add up. When you consider the number of stakeholders involved, it's just can't be that cut and dried, at least if my knowledge of human behaviour is anything to go by.

Thing is, between a fitness bloke and a coach playing blokes that are not right we have gone from a red hot flag chance to having no players left and missing the 8. Theres only 2 people you can point the finger at. Pakistan  cricket on a match fixing day would be pound with that collapse.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #156 –
Quote from: laj – on
Let's hope a fresh group of players hits the game with some adrenaline. Then hope for the best.

Can't believe we sat 6pts clear in 2nd, then the week after kick 8.4 in the first qtr. I was sure a flag was right in our grasp as their wad no one better than us Fast forward 23 qtrs and that let down is just shattering.
I hear ya brother, you couldn't make it up.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #158 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
I just can’t listen to Lloyd talk about issues at Carlton - his conflict is glaring.
Tend to agree with his brother being a senior official at the club he would probably be privy to certain information as well as having a biased view on any of his brothers decision making..

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #159 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27Hr7LMJ3o

Not many radical changes.

Midfield under performed as a team unit. Defending stoppages has been diabolical - with the talent in the midfield expected better defending as they\re a hardened and experienced group.

Tim Clarke to move on that opens the door for Ebert or Lonergan. Just not good enough in the coalface this year. We allowed the ball move to the outside from stoppage so easily and so frequently

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #160 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

Yep, sure did... rushed these two back (and others since) while we had a kid tearing it up in the Magoos (Binns) who couldn't get a look in. Then, as you point out, all manner of strange MC decisions. And before that, remember the GWS game? Up by almost 7 gls and blew it... definite signs of bathwater drinking and inflated egos. And how have we done since that game?

As PaulP noted, finger pointing and looking for one simplistic scapegoat may not be all that fruitful. Almost seems like a perfect storm of a good number of 'odd' decisions culminated to deliver what we have now.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #162 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27Hr7LMJ3o

I watched that YT clip also but didn't get much from it as Caro, Cornes and Hutchy were all talking over each other.

The best analyses of our woes I found coming from Jordan Lewis and Luke Hodge. Worth a watch. Something about the perspectives from those who've been there and done it that has more credibility.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #163 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Tim Clarke to move on that opens the door for Ebert or Lonergan. Just not good enough in the coalface this year. We allowed the ball move to the outside from stoppage so easily and so frequently
Is that due to coaching or our lack of leg speed?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #164 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I watched that YT clip also but didn't get much from it as Caro, Cornes and Hutchy were all talking over each other.

The best analyses of our woes I found coming from Jordan Lewis and Luke Hodge. Worth a watch. Something about the perspectives from those who've been there and done it that has more credibility.
I have long wished for us to try and lure Hodge as an assistant. His football mind is second to none. A sniping dog as a player but a brilliant football mind who knows how to articulate it to players.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership