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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #165 –
All I ask is that the team that runs out on Sunday "SHOWS SOME FARKEN FIGHT FFS!!!!".
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #166 –
Youthful enthusiasm is a wonderful thing and is probably good for two weeks...... this week and then in front of a home crowd. Bank those 2 wins, take the bye and then bring the cavalry back for the first week of the finals with at least 5 key players well rested and ready to go against an opposition who have not had as much rest as we have, are pretty banged up across the ground and have not had enough time to iron out their niggles. Too simplistic?? We live in hope!!!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #167 –
I think we can win, WC are not that good and Im hoping we show some fight and pride as GTC suggested and Im sure Cripps, Walsh, Weitering and other senior players can lead the kids to a win and redeem some respect after last weeks debacle.
The players owe Voss after last weeks feeble display and another loss wont be tolerated by long suffering fans Im sure.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #168 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Lemmey regularly rucks in the VFL and I dare say that he would more effective at giving Pitto a chop out than Young, Cripps and Kennedy.  He can clunk a mark and his kicking for goal is good.  If nothing else, Lemmey would demand a competent key defender and he could bring the ball to ground more often than not.

That's a very glowing reference for a bloke I've only seen lowlights from.

Maybe the snippets ive tuned in to see have been anomalies, but I've seen nothing to excite me about him thus far.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #169 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
That's a very glowing reference for a bloke I've only seen lowlights from.

Maybe the snippets ive tuned in to see have been anomalies, but I've seen nothing to excite me about him thus far.

Lemmey shadows Harry at training and he works against Weiters et al at training.  His running patterns are good and he is a good mark.  His kicking for goal is generally very good. 

He can play in defence and he’s a competent ruckman.

I’d say that he’s still a work in progress, but he’s a much better chance of having an impact as a key forward than Hollands, E, Kennedy, McGovern, Kemp or Young.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #170 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
I think we can win, WC are not that good and Im hoping we show some fight and pride as GTC suggested and Im sure Cripps, Walsh, Weitering and other senior players can lead the kids to a win and redeem some respect after last weeks debacle.
The players owe Voss after last weeks feeble display and another loss wont be tolerated by long suffering fans Im sure.

I wish i had your belief EB. We have only beaten north in the last 6-7 weeks and even that win was a struggle and we are now well below full strength.
On current form i would be worried if we fielded our best team let along the one we have available this week.

Hoping im wrong but without being bias i think this week will be a comfortable WC win and will be the end of our year.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #171 –
We have alot of smalls in the forward line this week and absolute necessity to have a 201cm key forward around his feet. He may not take a grab and kick a goal but is good enough to provide a contest and thats all you can ask.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #172 –
They are taking the p!55 with the line up as named all be it a squad. Kennedy at FF, Elijah at CHF! If its anything like that at the first bounce we have put the cue in the rack and are positioning ourselves for draft picks.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #173 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
They are taking the p!55 with the line up as named all be it a squad. Kennedy at FF, Elijah at CHF! If its anything like that at the first bounce we have put the cue in the rack and are positioning ourselves for draft picks.

Good luck if your'e a West Coast strategist trying to work out who will line up where. ;)
Keep them guessing. :D

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #174 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Good luck if your'e a West Coast strategist trying to work out who will line up where. ;)
Keep them guessing. :D

Can't find a genuine key forward to keep the taller defenders honest?
Don't play one!

I know we have young and potentially lemmey who will fill that role but it always bothers me that teams always try to stick to the traditional setup.

100 years ago it seemed like a good idea so let's just copy that. Big chf. Big ff.

Why not run with 6 smalls? What have we got to lose?

Revolutionise the game. Just don't bomb it long

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #175 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Can't find a genuine key forward to keep the taller defenders honest?
Don't play one!

I know we have young and potentially lemmey who will fill that role but it always bothers me that teams always try to stick to the traditional setup.

100 years ago it seemed like a good idea so let's just copy that. Big chf. Big ff.

Why not run with 6 smalls? What have we got to lose?

Revolutionise the game. Just don't bomb it long

Weather forecast is for very wet, could aid us (hopefully)

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #176 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Can't find a genuine key forward to keep the taller defenders honest?
Don't play one!

I know we have young and potentially lemmey who will fill that role but it always bothers me that teams always try to stick to the traditional setup.

100 years ago it seemed like a good idea so let's just copy that. Big chf. Big ff.

Why not run with 6 smalls? What have we got to lose?

Revolutionise the game. Just don't bomb it long

I'd agree but lowering our eyes isn't really a strength of our team.

Nor is our forward pressure.

May as well play a glacial full forward than try use run.  It's not a strength of ours and with the make up of our team this week, you'd be better off with Akuei if nothing else.

At least he's athletic and has leg speed.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #177 –
Quote from: deepbluesee – on
Weather forecast is for very wet, could aid us (hopefully)

Rugby game the night before...ground could be a bit messy.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #178 –
The Weagles will probably attempt to emulate the Dawks by putting speed on the aggott, with lots of overlap handballs; they'll attempt to run, run, run and exhaust us.

I've heard our coaching and players talk ad nauseam about having more of a focus on our game than that of our opponent, which Teague also exalted. That's rubbish and ignores the first rule of combat - know your enemy, especially his strengths.

I hope the coaches instill a confidence in the group that takes the field on Sunday and a 'hunting' mindset. Enormous tackle pressure is needed; hunting in packs. Then bold, take the game on offense. If our heads are right, we'll get the points.

And FFS, realise that there is no H or Charles, so NO long bombs into the forward line... eyes lowered, many hard leading options provided by the forwards. Please, please forwards when the ball is in dispute in our half - lock it in there; make the game played in our forward half.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #179 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I'd agree but lowering our eyes isn't really a strength of our team.

Nor is our forward pressure.

May as well play a glacial full forward than try use run.  It's not a strength of ours
It's not the team we've built, it's stupid trying to make bulldozers into F1.

I think our vision is fine, but we've b0rked up so many disposals we now have lost confidence, we aren't talking about threading the needle, we have blokes who can't hit a wide open 200cm team-mate from 20m, so we go the long pointless kick to nobody in particular to earn a Dangflog style DE% type stat. Then when the opposition spoil and clear the ball we blame the forwards for a turnover.

Our problem has never been winning clearances, forcing turnovers or making intercepts, were up there with most other clubs if not better than them, our problem is 100% the inability to hit targets consistently. Fans look at stats and think our DE=66% is OK, but that is 2 handballs and a turnover.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"