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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #30 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Young does okay on talls.

He played against the Lions in round zero and did well. He played against the Giants early in the year and stood Hogan (who resorted to punching him) for much of it.
As long as Young doesnt have to kick of the ball under pressure he is fine. Punches, spoils and intercept marks sufficiently well enough to be of assistance to Weitering as opposed to a hindrance. I would not drop him.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #31 –
One of the reasons we wanted to play finals, even when things were pretty grim, was to give the young players a chance to experience finals pressure.
It will be beneficial in the campaigns to come.

Fact is that quite a few of our younger players got that experience last year.
Some who didn't experience finals last year are Lord, Binns, and Moir.

We have a bit of a dilemma.
It looks like we could get players back.
Do we push those young players out to accomodate them...not really knowing the returning players true level of fitness and more importantly match fitness.
Do we deny these youngsters finals experience, given there is still a slim chance of progressing deep into the finals.
Logic would say play the experience, even if there is some doubt about their ability to come up.
You would want to be a brave coaching group to look to the future...but to my mind I wouldn't be that upset if they went down that path.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #32 –
INS: Charlie, Harry, McG, Martin, TDK, Zac

OUTS: Pitt, Orasio, Young, Cowan, Durdin, (Lord or Binns)

Tbh aside from Cerra and Doch, it’s probably the strongest team we’ve had all year.

Question marks still remain about TDKs availability.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #33 –
Quote from: tex – on
INS: Charlie, Harry, McG, Martin, TDK, Zac

OUTS: Pitt, Orasio, Young, Cowan, Durdin, (Lord or Binns)

Tbh aside from Cerra and Doch, it’s probably the strongest team we’ve had all year.

Question marks still remain about TDKs availability.
Absolutely not!
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #34 –
Big no to Martin, we need to move on.

I wouldn't bring anyone back unless they are 100%. 
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #35 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Big no to Martin, we need to move on.

I wouldn't bring anyone back unless they are 100%. 
I know he breaks down and it’s hard to risk in a final. But same can be said about Orasio, and Durdin was no where near the level yesterday either.

I think Martin, if he plays 4 quarters, adds a bit of class that’s needed.

Would’ve preferred Fogarty but not available.

FWIW I’m all for trading Martin at seasons end. Or delisting.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #36 –
Quote from: tex – on
I know he breaks down and it’s hard to risk in a final. But same can be said about Orasio, and Durdin was no where near the level yesterday either.

I think Martin, if he plays 4 quarters, adds a bit of class that’s needed.

Would’ve preferred Fogarty but not available.

FWIW I’m all for trading Martin at seasons end. Or delisting.
Disappointing because a fit Martin is a great addition to our forward line bringing much needed x-factor, Moir may bring this in time but isn't fit enough to do it for 4 quarters at the moment (according to Voss). Martin's injury history will see him yield very little at the trade table.
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #37 –
Get in there Jack Martin!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Shakin77 – on
Get in there Jack Martin!!!

Yep.

He has always been the type of player that could win you a final.
Don't rely on him to play 22 games a year, but if fit and you need some x-factor who can turn the game in 10 minutes of footy, he is it.

Who are we going to pick in front of him? Durdin, Fantasia?? Nope.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #39 –
He would more than likely break down in the first quarter.



2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #40 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
He would more than likely break down in the first quarter.

Possibly.

Still give us more in that quarter than Durdin and Fantasia would in 4 quarters combined.

.......plus it would allow us to play a sub as cover, rather than have those 2 wasting space for the entire match.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #41 –
I'll be shocked if we have fit players and Durdin plays again this season, he could barely lift his arm above waist height.

I'd bring Williams in for Durdin, and other than BigH and Charlie that's about enough F50 changes.
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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #42 –
Id only play 100% fit players and that excludes Martin, plus I wouldnt play Cerra either as its just been too long between games for him and Id stick with the kids in Lord, Binns and Moir. Id say there will be still be doubts on a few of our injured players and I wouldnt be panicked into picking TDK, Curnow, McKay, Williams, McGovern if there are any doubts.
One question thats needs to be answered is if TDK plays does Pittonet?.....logic might say No as Brisbane only run the one ruck but if Charlie or Harry doesnt play then is TDK required down forward leaving Pittonet to do most of the ruckwork?

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #43 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Id only play 100% fit players and that excludes Martin, plus I wouldnt play Cerra either as its just been too long between games for him and Id stick with the kids in Lord, Binns and Moir. Id say there will be still be doubts on a few of our injured players and I wouldnt be panicked into picking TDK, Curnow, McKay, Williams, McGovern if there are any doubts.
One question thats needs to be answered is if TDK plays does Pittonet?.....logic might say No as Brisbane only run the one ruck but if Charlie or Harry doesnt play then is TDK required down forward leaving Pittonet to do most of the ruckwork?

The Big O looked very banged up against The Cheats on Frid night. I would consider giving him a real working over and if that means two rucks to gain the advantage, so be it. Smarter people than me will decide.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #44 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Id only play 100% fit players and that excludes Martin, plus I wouldnt play Cerra either as its just been too long between games for him and Id stick with the kids in Lord, Binns and Moir. Id say there will be still be doubts on a few of our injured players and I wouldnt be panicked into picking TDK, Curnow, McKay, Williams, McGovern if there are any doubts.
One question thats needs to be answered is if TDK plays does Pittonet?.....logic might say No as Brisbane only run the one ruck but if Charlie or Harry doesnt play then is TDK required down forward leaving Pittonet to do most of the ruckwork?

Young can't play IMO.
So if we are short any key forwards, and TDK is fit, then he and Pitto both play.
If everyone is fit, than stick with just TDK and add plenty of legs around him.
Its a final. We need pressure.

I'd be more inclined to play someone like Moir instead of 2 rucks. The kid has an x-factor that could influence the game more in 5 minutes than a 2nd ruck will over the whole game.