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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #390 –
Quote from: NudeNut – on
I like the side, although Cinc is very unlucky.
Think the MC had no choice but to play all the guys coming back from injury, got to remember the end game here is to win a flag, not just an elimination final. Need to win 4 games to do that and our best chance of that is to get games in to the guys who have been out for long periods with injuries and have our best possible 22 on the field for the GF.
Have to roll the dice.

To get to a GF you have to win the EF first. You picks a fit side to win. No good picking underdone players and losing.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #391 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
So you prefer to take Moir, with less than 60 mins of AFL experience, into a cut throat final at the Gabba than Cerra? Think about what you write sometimes.
My oath, because he is fit and showing form, as the sub. Cerra was struggling before with missing chunks of football and will be under done. Doubt he is improving this time. I know what win finals, players who are fit and in form. Proven time and time and time and time again as you well know. You're taking the panic way of selection. Lord, Binns and Moir showed terrific form in their roles. In form, you play.  Why Cincotta was dropped is beyond me.

West Coast won the 2018 flag with 6 top blokes out. Importantly though, the side they sent out was fit.

Hopefully hindsight will prove me wrong.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #392 –
I look at the other sides and think that we have pissed away a golden opportunity to have a serious shot at pinching a flag this year.  Chances like that come around very rarely.

I'm with Iaj...don't pick unfit blokes.  So Lord over Cerra is a no brainer for me, even with his relative inexperience. Cerra has stunk this year anyway.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #393 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
I look at the other sides and think that we have pissed away a golden opportunity to have a serious shot at pinching a flag this year.  Chances like that come around very rarely.
Yes, but it's not a recent issue, many saw this coming 8 weeks ago.

For years so many on here and other forums have been calling for support for Cripps, a big body in the Midfield to share the load, it's obvious there is a need for that, no single point of failure.

Then we go with a solo KPP, KPF, KPD and Ruck, doing the exact tactical opposite of sharing the load we overload them. No matter what the naysayers claim, fatigue kills, it leads to injury and loss of form, and that is exactly what happened. Even more stupidly, excluding a week or so ago, we continued to play the same basic game plan with a fraction of a usual resource.

Players aren't numbers on a spreadsheet, you just can't drop them on the field and have the numbers sort it all out, they are a finite resource that has to be managed.

What we did was wasteful, we didn't respect the limited resource, we behaved like a bunch of corporate knobs.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #394 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Dunno...it's Kenny Hinkley coaching Port in the finals, not a great combo for success in recent seasons. I picked the Cats when I saw the teams and read how well the Cats play the ground.
Think Brisbane deserve to be odds on favourites and it's going to take a miracle to win...
My point was that all teams can have a bad one, Port had a stinker of monumental proportions. They were completely off, it happens.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #396 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
My point was that all teams can have a bad one, Port had a stinker of monumental proportions. They were completely off, it happens.
So the Cats come out with a ruthless attitude and put Port to the sword. With 6 finals debutants.
No players with injury concerns played.
There's the blueprint right there for us.
Bring the heat and anyone is beatable

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #397 –
Quote from: laj – on
To get to a GF you have to win the EF first. You picks a fit side to win. No good picking underdone players and losing.
No good winning the EF if you can't then pick a side that would win the GF. If you don't pick guys like Cerra and TDK this week, makes it even harder to pick them next week, one more week without match fitness.
Our best 22 in form can go all the way, the guys they've picked are in that group.

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Reply #398 –
Brisbane have won 10 of their last 12 games. Had they kicked straight against the Giants that would read 11 of their last 12. Their form is solid.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #399 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Brisbane have won 10 of their last 12 games. Had they kicked straight against the Giants that would read 11 of their last 12. Their form is solid.
And yet they slipped from the top 4, having a home final and the double chance to an EF. Comp is as even as its ever been. Our form line is our form line, our talent and game plan can beat anyone, anytime, anywhere if we bring it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #400 –
Durdin seems to represent a greater risk than those returning from injury; he is only one hard tackle away from another shoulder dislocation.

I would prefer Cincotta as a forward or even as the substitute as he is just as fast, built like a tank, a better kick and capable of contributing in many more ways.

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Reply #401 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Durdin seems to represent a greater risk than those returning from injury; he is only one hard tackle away from another shoulder dislocation.
I sort of understand Durdin, Fantasia and to some degree Cottrell when he was available.

Because much of what they do is running to the right spaces to force opposition into patterns and locations that allow Cripps, Hewett, Cerra, Walsh and Kennedy to remain in the contest for the footy. As such they don't need to be getting a lot of footy to have an impact on the result, they just need to get to the right location in a timely manner.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #402 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
So you prefer to take Moir, with less than 60 mins of AFL experience, into a cut throat final at the Gabba than Cerra? Think about what you write sometimes.
moir no.  But look at the cats. They dropped tuohy and played a vfl player chomping at the bit.  Did a job and did it well. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #403 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
moir no.  But look at the cats. They dropped tuohy and played a vfl player chomping at the bit.  Did a job and did it well. 
Dropped? He was the sub. If we did that there'd be blood on here saying we are gifting games. 2E is finished, shouldn't be playing.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #404 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
No one in the football world is giving us a chance, and rightly so IMO. I think we need to be realistic. We stumbled into finals on the back of many weeks of average form. We've had several injuries, and for this game lots of changes and question marks over the players selected, against a team who rarely loses on their home deck. None of which suggest a win IMO.

I don’t think many in the football world gave the Cats a chance.

If we play our best footy, we should win. 

Brisbane has lost two of its last three games, one of which was at the Gabba.  They are flaky, the goal kicking by their key players has been atrocious and they are gettable!
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!