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Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #30 –
Vossy's "moments" comments in the presser's are starting to feel very "green shootish"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #31 –
There'll be a Nobel Prize and a pot of gold waiting for whomever can solve these hot / cold performance issues. Kennedy and Owies are not the answer. We were losing games with them last year, so it's certainly not that.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #32 –
Looks like they have stopped playing for another coach. Attitude was awful during that 3rd qtr. Round 14, 2023, showed that attitude is everything where we went from this current rubbish to superstars in a week and took us close to a flag. Forget worrying about players, this is our issue. With a poor attitude most players look like rubbish.

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Reply #33 –
I dont know what they do or say at half time in the rooms but it's not working. Maybe they should stay out on the ground running laps😂. Seriously, the 3rd qtr was rubbish, piss weak at the context, lost the first 7-8 clearances in row. Thats on field leadership for mine. Cripps, Walsh Dekoning should have called the mids together and put it on them "we in the clearance or stoppage" Ala Luke Hodge. Very very poor. Weiters words very strong in the ch7 post match interview, the review yet again will be hard to watch for some (including senior players).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #34 –
GTC. I was thinking the same. Some weird sh1t happening in those 10 minutes. They need some kind of circuit breaker.

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Reply #35 –
Me three.  Voss clearly noticed it too, as will most of the league.  Attitude and sad to say it, very weak at the contest.  Not everyone, but watch the tape, it obvious we have some rotten apples in the crate
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #36 –
Rinse and repeat. The difference between last weeks game and this weeks game was the colour of the oppositions jumper. Play 1 qtr of OK football and then it is like rinse and repeat. Goodbye season and to make matters worse The Dorks are laughing their heads off.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #37 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
GTC. I was thinking the same. Some weird sh1t happening in those 10 minutes. They need some kind of circuit breaker.
I was saying it last night  to my daughter, I told her the story of Hodge. When I was a kid, I played in the backline, if I was Weiters last night, I would have gone to the mids and said "Fellas, I dont want to see the ball back at my end after the centre bounce, is that clear?"
Our on field leadership is very poor when things aren't going great.
This may seem trivial but I noticed Hewett help Nick Daicos get up off the ground after contest. Not two minutes later, Hewett was not he ground with Daicos standing over him, do you reckon a helping hand was extended to Hewett. No Chance, watch the first bounce I think it was at the start of the 4th, Daicos lines up next to Walsh in the guts and he was into him bumping him straight away, here endeth the lesson, to win games of football you need to be a ruthless prick for 120mins for 25 odd weeks.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #38 –
Something (perhaps many things) are rotten in the state of Carlton at the moment.
We can all have a stab at it but I think you would have to be a lot closer to the inner workings to know exactly what that is.

The natives now are more than restless and that never bodes well, especially for a coach.

Just watching last night there were a few occasions when players had a 'shot' at a team-mate after they had made an error.
Weitering's words post match suggested that there would need to be some hard conversations.
It gives the impression that some players may not be happy with the efforts of others...and that's understandable.

Despite the second half fade-outs I don't think this is a fitness issue. It's more a mental one. Half-time comes and the little men inside their heads are telling the players..."this is where we fold"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #39 –
Few blokes on big money looking very comfortable ATM and didn't go particularly hard last night.  I reckon that would have particularly riled one M.Voss.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #40 –
I saw plenty of effort.

When you can't get your hands on the ball, and the opposition is able to run over you in waves because they're fitter and faster, then when you do get it, you make mistakes, this is what happens.

Cripps is a shadow of himself.   The players currently don't want the ball.  When they get it, they've got no where to go with it, because there's no easy ball, there's no release option.  There's minimal movement, because we lack run.  Its all a feedback loop.  You can't do one, which means you can't do another thing, and you can't do the next thing, so you have to resort to long kicks to contests.  Cripps goal last night, he had a teamate clear closer to goal.  Ignored the option. Kicked it himself.   We've got blokes playing selfish football everywhere and guys that don't want contact.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #41 –
It's like the players are playing like robots, performing to the TEAM rules not allowing them to play with flair, X factor or Instinct.
Look at White, first game running around having the time of his life. Wouldn't have had too many instructions being first game. I thought he competed very well, played with enthusiasm, like he enjoyed it.
Compare that to Moir, last year his first game was exciting, showed X factor and we thought this kid could be anything. Now a year later in 3 Qtrs of footy he got 2 possessions. WTF? He is running around trying to do the Team thing instead of hunting the ball instinctively.
It's like we coach the skills out of the players, they ALL can play, they ALL have very good skills that's why they got into the AFL, but they second guess their decision making ALL the time worried about making a mistake.

I like Vossy, although I don't think we have the right group of assistant coaches.
It also must be hard when you are unable to put your best time on the park every week.
Injuries and the big elephant in the room which no one wants to talk about.
 
2025... Moir of the same to come

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Reply #42 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I saw plenty of effort. ....................................

Cripps is a shadow of himself.....................

I agree Thry. Despite how off we looked, we managed to win 3 quarters.

It's hard to know if these are just growing pains, and the current combination is right and we need to wait for it to develop, or if there are fundamental flaws that time won't fix.

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Reply #43 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: pinot – on
Meh - we are a badly coached and drilled team. Defence and midfield is fully stacked with a Coleman medalist in the forward line. Stating cupboard is bare is a cop out to the gross under performance and loss of faith in Voss's ways.

There was no-one apart from White and Boyd who deserved to be promoted from the VFL Round 1 match.
Boyd got his chance last week, White and Moir got their's this week.
The replacement cupboard is bare.


Had four months to drill a squad that has high end talent and failed.

Actually my bad - three years going to four

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