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Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #45 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: DJC – on
Meanwhile, there's panic buying at service stations and I expect that there'll be a run on dunny rolls  ::)

I've been hiding under a rock the past few days due to a family emergency....and not sure when all this actually kicked off.

However, the first thing i saw on my phone was an article telling everyone to go and stock up on fuel because of the war with Iran will limit supply and increase costs.

Can't remember where the article was from, but clearly i wasn't the only person to see it as i've had 4 other people talk about that very issue today.

Best fill up if you can get a good price before the petrol people jack it up...which they'll do regardless.

Barnaby Joyce asked a question about supply during Question time today.

Energy Minister Chris Bowen said Australia has 36 days worth of petrol and 34 days worth of diesel stockpiled.

Joyce took a point of order and asked whether the stored reserves were on Australian soil or on ships.

Bowen said either in Australia “or on ships in our economic zone”...so on the way.
Apparently those stocks are pretty normal which surprised me...in fact better than usual so 'no worries' just yet.



Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #46 –
I love this title.

On an ambivalence level what does a nato sanctioned war look like?

Also, can I ask, how would we all like it if someone destroyed parliament and enforced their own take on our leadership?

We probably wouldnt necessarily hate our government being over thrown but they're going to need some staunch leadership to right that ship, and if history is a guide this is just history repeating since the Iraq involvement in the 80's.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #47 –
Beyond that there's not much to like.  This is world war 3 unfolding.  A critical thinker would say it started years ago.  Some would assert this is simply the continuation of all the proxy wars fought since I can remember.   This is gonna get really ugly.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #48 –
I believe that under International Energy Agency rules, we should hold 90 days worth but we're usually around the 50 day mark.

It would seem to be a no brainer to have our strategic reserves stored here rather than in the USA.  There's really no guarantee that the USA will hand our reserves over or have the means to get it to us.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #49 –
How many American Presidents have either not started any new wars / conflicts, or ended conflicts they inherited ? Trump is a useless sack of sh1t, but he's upholding a proud, time honored American tradition.

Americans are crying out for the chance of living a life of some meaning and purpose,and they get this. Apparently no money for social services or anything that might actually help people, but plenty of dough for war. And they can't even get that right.

"If you ever feel useless, remember it took 20 years, trillions of dollars and 4 US Presidents to replace the Taliban with the Taliban."

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #50 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I love this title.

Who was the bright spark who came up with it?  :D

On an ambivalence level what does a nato sanctioned war look like?

Nothing to do with NATO.  The Treaty only comes into force in a member state is attacked. The USA argued that 9/11 was an attack on it by Afghanistan, hence NATO involvement.  Most NATO countries have refused permission for US aircraft to use their bases.

Also, can I ask, how would we all like it if someone destroyed parliament and enforced their own take on our leadership?

I may be cynical but is this about concern for the Iranian people or access to oil?

We probably wouldnt necessarily hate our government being over thrown but they're going to need some staunch leadership to right that ship, and if history is a guide this is just history repeating since the Iraq involvement in the 80's.

Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria?  Using military might to topple a government can work in the long run, but only with something like the Marshall Plan in Germany or SCAP in Japan.  That's not going to happen in Iran and it's going to take a miracle to see Iran functioning as it should.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #51 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I love this title.

Who was the bright spark who came up with it?  :D

On an ambivalence level what does a nato sanctioned war look like?

Nothing to do with NATO.  The Treaty only comes into force in a member state is attacked. The USA argued that 9/11 was an attack on it by Afghanistan, hence NATO involvement.  Most NATO countries have refused permission for US aircraft to use their bases.

I think the UK might have reversed their decision and France and Germany are also thinking about it.

Also, can I ask, how would we all like it if someone destroyed parliament and enforced their own take on our leadership?

I may be cynical but is this about concern for the Iranian people or access to oil?

We probably wouldnt necessarily hate our government being over thrown but they're going to need some staunch leadership to right that ship, and if history is a guide this is just history repeating since the Iraq involvement in the 80's.

Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria?  Using military might to topple a government can work in the long run, but only with something like the Marshall Plan in Germany or SCAP in Japan.  That's not going to happen in Iran and it's going to take a miracle to see Iran functioning as it should.

It's a recipe for disaster.

To get the regime to fall will be a difficult task because they control the weaponry, and won't hesitate to use it on their own people.

Many in Iran have no desire to adopt a more freer, non religious form of government. It will be a country divided.

There seems to be no thinking as to what comes next should the regime fall.

It's not a conflict that can be restrained by borders and terrorist acts will occur across the world against the US and it's supporters.

It sends a message to other superpowers that there aren't any rules anymore and 'might is right'.

Bibi must have some excellent polaroids.