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The list was stronger a couple of years ago.

Quote from: madbluboy – on March 15, 2026, 01:32:50 pm

The list was stronger a couple of years ago.

that might be true but our maturing elderly were in their prime.  We've not exactly see our list flourish elsewhere with the exception of Kennedy.

Everyone else is gone from the afl or spare parts player.  The wheels had fallen off by the time Charlie, jsos and tdk moved on.  Every other player who left us is retired, or cant get a game.

Quote from: Thryleon – on March 15, 2026, 02:13:24 pm

that might be true but our maturing elderly were in their prime.  We've not exactly see our list flourish elsewhere with the exception of Kennedy.

Everyone else is gone from the afl or spare parts player.  The wheels had fallen off by the time Charlie, jsos and tdk moved on.  Every other player who left us is retired, or cant get a game.

Thats half the problem though isn't it.
Players edging into an area past their prime and not enough young talent coming in to bridge the gap.
It is not necessarily about ins vs outs player by player.

This has been a big criticism from me over the journey. Each individual player recruitment in itself is not necessarily a bad idea. You can build a good case for every player recruited vs what they cost us.

However, list building is not about getting a clump of individuals together, instead its about building a fully fleshed out list that is not easily defeated by some injuries.
This is why i've been banging on about our 37 small forward recruits over the journey.
All can play football to different degrees. But they do not make our team/list better when half of them are forced to play 2's because we have too many in the 1's already.
At the same time having only 1 AFL capable KPF on the list, and only somewhat better at the other end.

Quote from: kruddler – on March 15, 2026, 03:12:53 pm

Thats half the problem though isn't it.
Players edging into an area past their prime and not enough young talent coming in to bridge the gap.
It is not necessarily about ins vs outs player by player.

This has been a big criticism from me over the journey. Each individual player recruitment in itself is not necessarily a bad idea. You can build a good case for every player recruited vs what they cost us.

However, list building is not about getting a clump of individuals together, instead its about building a fully fleshed out list that is not easily defeated by some injuries.
This is why i've been banging on about our 37 small forward recruits over the journey.
All can play football to different degrees. But they do not make our team/list better when half of them are forced to play 2's because we have too many in the 1's already.
At the same time having only 1 AFL capable KPF on the list, and only somewhat better at the other end.

Agree, but the point was our strong list depth wasn't really strong as soon as the game went to a more precise skilful kicking style.

We lived and died by our good players playing well and our form is coinciding with the top dropping off not the bottom.