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Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #91 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
Scum looking the goods. God forbid we drop this game and then again against the scum.

We have form and I expect the discipline to match.

MM needs to take this season to mould attitude and culture. Every weak link must be exposed and culled whoever they are.
IN WADA WE TRUST

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #92 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
What about we bite the bullet and put time into Casboult and make him the fullforward....leave the Boult one out to lead up(not too far) or body up his man in the square...

EB1, you were doing OK until that bold point. For his size Casboult is so easily disposed of it isn't funny. I hope he is better this season but in the past the slightest contest and he almost stepped out of the way! He's a superstar at jumping from the back of the pack, but put him in the front or make it a wrestle and he has turned Bambi in the past.

I reckon if you wanted a bloke wrestling in the square any of our regular three tall defenders would be a better option.

Dont disagree the Boult needs work in that area but he has to learn and he wont learn anything playing in the twos...Geelong could have spat the dummy with Hawkins after he didnt set the world on fire early but persisted, when you are 100kg like Casboult you dont get shoved out the road if you are taught properly.

Our three defenders???...McInnes got shoved out of the road by a bloke half his size in Gray and then let him go in a tackle, Watson couldnt lay body on Westhoff and Jamo couldnt catch him to lay body on....
Eddie Betts had more idea on wrestling for position....

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #93 –
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
Scum looking the goods. God forbid we drop this game and then again against the scum.

We have form and I expect the discipline to match.

MM needs to take this season to mould attitude and culture. Every weak link must be exposed and culled whoever they are.

That was last year's plan remember? I have a feeling I'm going to be hearing the same thing this time next year as well.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #94 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: crashlander – on
[1] When we name our side, we include only fit players. No playing half fit guys - they can't run out a game.
[2] We play a few forwards. Not just Waite. The question, is who?
[3] We work on our midfield so we get the ball out of the middle. I'm tired of seeing us smashed in centre clearances when the game is up for grabs. In fact, I'm tired of being beaten in centre clearances at all.

Just on #2, unless you are thinking we play players from other teams lists, i think we are stuck with Waite.  :-\


What about we bite the bullet and put time into Casboult and make him the fullforward....

We've bitten the bullet so many time that its casing now shows our complete dental records!

Until he gets fit and until he can learn to kick, he will be a fallback option at best. He could turn out to be the next T. Cloke. I suspect he will not.

I've already said that i'd bring in both Wood and Casboult instead of our #1 and #2 rucks, point is though, looking through our forwards cupboard and its pretty bare. Especially when you see Hendo in the backline cupboard more often than not.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #95 –
Half of our problem is Kreuzer plays his best football as the first ruck and struggles to have an impact when playing second fiddle to Warncock.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #96 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: crashlander – on
[1] When we name our side, we include only fit players. No playing half fit guys - they can't run out a game.
[2] We play a few forwards. Not just Waite. The question, is who?
[3] We work on our midfield so we get the ball out of the middle. I'm tired of seeing us smashed in centre clearances when the game is up for grabs. In fact, I'm tired of being beaten in centre clearances at all.

Just on #2, unless you are thinking we play players from other teams lists, i think we are stuck with Waite.  :-\


What about we bite the bullet and put time into Casboult and make him the fullforward....

We've bitten the bullet so many time that its casing now shows our complete dental records!

Until he gets fit and until he can learn to kick, he will be a fallback option at best. He could turn out to be the next T. Cloke. I suspect he will not.

I've already said that i'd bring in both Wood and Casboult instead of our #1 and #2 rucks, point is though, looking through our forwards cupboard and its pretty bare. Especially when you see Hendo in the backline cupboard more often than not.


I'm not saying Casboult is the answer but we have to work with what we have this year and he is probably the best of not much to pick from.......I agree with Wood coming in to the team and would retain Kruezer as my other ruckman, Casboult wouldnt be rucking if I was coaching and would be a permament forward unless we had ruck injuries on the day.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #97 –
Hawthorn won a flag with inferior pure ruckmen but they worked it into an advantage.

Bailey was their best ruck but he was subbed off at 3 quarter time nearly every match for a midfielder to bring in more run.

Hale helped Bailey out and was probably their best contested mark up forward.

Roughead would go into the ruck in the final terms to bring even more run late in games.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #98 –
tigers are thereabouts for me. If we cant get over them, we're fugged
plain and simple.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #99 –
After seeing some of the other results this round, I don't feel so bad about us. I think some teams just haven't adjusted from the preseason to the real deal yet.

I've been keeping an eye on rotations used. We used 84 and Essendon used 111. We need to get that number near 120 asap. Simmo reckons our GPS numbers were through the roof so hopefully busting our guts in the first game will get us match fit quicker.

I haven't written us off JUST yet.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #100 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Hawthorn won a flag with inferior pure ruckmen but they worked it into an advantage.

Bailey was their best ruck but he was subbed off at 3 quarter time nearly every match for a midfielder to bring in more run.

Hale helped Bailey out and was probably their best contested mark up forward.

Roughead would go into the ruck in the final terms to bring even more run late in games.

Madbluboy, its a great point you make. Hawthorn are the best innovators in the game, and the angry ant has a lot to do with it. Most teams including us just play catch up/copy cat.

I wouldn't mind us being able to do something like that as well, if Warnock gets subbed out and you tell Kreuzer its all on you win us the game, maybe that would get the best out of him. Plus the extra run.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #101 –
Maybe not this wek but Id be looking at a slightly different forward structure in the near future if we continue to be poor here.

KD's - Jamison, Waite
3rd tall - White

KF's - Henderson, Casboult
Talls - Everitt, Walker

Ruck - Kreuzer

-Casboult to back up MK as 2nd ruck but I want Mk to get to the point of rucking most of the game.
-Consider Casboult as the CHF leadup. Henderson deep/FF where his nous is of more use.
-Everitt and Walke to provide extra potency instead of us continually relying on Waite and a ruckman.

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #102 –
Quote from: Jean-Claude – on
I wouldn't mind us being able to do something like that as well, if Warnock gets subbed out and you tell Kreuzer its all on you win us the game, maybe that would get the best out of him. Plus the extra run.

I really like this idea. Put the challenge to the man he seems like the type that would respond to some extra responsibility.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #103 –
 
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on

MM needs to take this season to mould attitude and culture.

He's already had 1 season to do this. Just how big a problem is it, if he hasn't been able to fix it already?!!
It's all quite concerning from where I'm sitting ....  :-\
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!

Re: R2 Richmond V Carlton - Prematch

Reply #104 –
Well this week should be the first week where we play only one of Kreuz or Warnock. I think we have to move away from the idea that we can make a forward out of either of them and they should be regarded primarily as rucks who are mutually exclusive. Start this week by giving Kreuzer a run and bringing in Casboult at CHF/2nd ruck. to see how they go, with Warnock and Rowe waiting in the wings as futurealternatives.

Would also give Bell a rest and bring in Cripps, and bring in Scotland in place of McInnes. Was also tempted to leave out Robbo but maybe that would be one change too many
Reality always wins in the end.