Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #15 – April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 am Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 06, 2014, 11:36:54 pmQuote from: Juddkreuzer – on April 06, 2014, 11:28:47 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on April 06, 2014, 11:26:07 pmQuote from: TheSheik – on April 06, 2014, 11:18:47 pmIf we lose to the Dees next week, Malthouse will be sacked, nothing is surer !!!He's probably thinking that may not be a bad option by now - walk away into the sunset with his pockets jingling and then back into the media after about 18 months. Better than having to deal with those deadbeats at CFC every effin' day! Maybe we should play it different and offer him a contract extension on the proviso of nominated ladder positions.nah pass - I want him gone.Theres no such thing as a 60+ yo premiership coach these daysPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #16 – April 07, 2014, 12:13:34 am Quote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 amPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor.But MM and Carlton do not rebuild!Based on the assistants he put in place he has no intention of setting up a replacement! Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #17 – April 07, 2014, 12:17:57 am Quote from: LP – on April 07, 2014, 12:13:34 amQuote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 amPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor.But MM and Carlton do not rebuild!Based on the assistants he put in place he has no intention of setting up a replacement!Malthouse did not recruit Cripps, Giles, Menzel or Graham.The objectives we have are Malthouses. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #18 – April 07, 2014, 12:26:42 am Quote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 amQuote from: thrunthrublu – on April 06, 2014, 11:36:54 pmQuote from: Juddkreuzer – on April 06, 2014, 11:28:47 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on April 06, 2014, 11:26:07 pmQuote from: TheSheik – on April 06, 2014, 11:18:47 pmIf we lose to the Dees next week, Malthouse will be sacked, nothing is surer !!!He's probably thinking that may not be a bad option by now - walk away into the sunset with his pockets jingling and then back into the media after about 18 months. Better than having to deal with those deadbeats at CFC every effin' day! Maybe we should play it different and offer him a contract extension on the proviso of nominated ladder positions.nah pass - I want him gone.Theres no such thing as a 60+ yo premiership coach these daysPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor.If we made top 4 this year as Mick predicted we would I would not have a problem. If we made the 8 I also would not have a problem. If we were a strong contender for the 8 I would be disappointed but not shattered.We are now bottom 4 material and I am disgusted. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #19 – April 07, 2014, 12:30:33 am Quote from: cimm1979 – on April 07, 2014, 12:17:57 amQuote from: LP – on April 07, 2014, 12:13:34 amQuote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 amPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor.But MM and Carlton do not rebuild!Based on the assistants he put in place he has no intention of setting up a replacement!Malthouse did not recruit Cripps, Giles, Menzel or Graham.The objectives we have are Malthouses.Well, if he didn't persuade Rogers and co. into drafting those players then they've had a massive turnaround in their recruiting philosophy.Malthouse did NOT set the club's objectives. They were set by the board BEFORE Malthouse was pursued by the Club. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #20 – April 07, 2014, 12:34:22 am Milk.MM had no influence over Menzel or Graham. I think they were recruited before he even got there.MM repeatedly say he has no influence over drafting, he does however play a role in getting targets from other clubs.The objectives of the playing group have been set by the coach. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #21 – April 07, 2014, 06:09:19 am Quote from: cimm1979 – on April 07, 2014, 12:34:22 amMilk.MM had no influence over Menzel or Graham. I think they were recruited before he even got there.MM repeatedly say he has no influence over drafting, he does however play a role in getting targets from other clubs.The objectives of the playing group have been set by the coach.The club gave Malthouse the objective of winning a premiership with the current squad. They need to reassess that objective.Malthouse wouldn't have handpicked Menzel and Graham but he would've had to have OK'd the picks. If he didn't then that is why our recruiting has been so terrible. The Coach should have final say in what his team needs, and if not, why was at both the 2012 and 2013 drafts? Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #22 – April 07, 2014, 06:17:06 am Quote from: laj – on April 06, 2014, 11:26:41 pmAfter the media grilling this week we'll win by 70-80, the players will be happy and full of themselves, only to be pumped by the Dogs the next week. Jimbo stop with the ridiculous predictions, we are not that good. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #23 – April 07, 2014, 06:17:49 am Quote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 12:02:49 amPeople who want Malthouse gone are idiots. It's the players, not the coach. We just need to reassess his objectives. His recruiting of Menzel, Graham, Cripps and Giles (I know it's early) have already given us hope in the future. He needs another list cull at the end of this year and needs to set us up for his successor.You are seriously delusional. He never recruited those blokes he was off promoting his book remember? Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #24 – April 07, 2014, 08:51:50 am Quote from: MilkIt – on April 07, 2014, 06:09:19 amQuote from: cimm1979 – on April 07, 2014, 12:34:22 amMilk.MM had no influence over Menzel or Graham. I think they were recruited before he even got there.MM repeatedly say he has no influence over drafting, he does however play a role in getting targets from other clubs.The objectives of the playing group have been set by the coach.The club gave Malthouse the objective of winning a premiership with the current squad. They need to reassess that objective.This is the point that our club has fallen over. They have no forking clue. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #25 – April 07, 2014, 08:57:11 am The next 4 weeks we'll know where we're really at.Ground zero against the worst side in the comp MelbourneStep up against the dogs.Another step up against the EaglesThen the finals bound pies.If we lose to Melbourne god help us.If we can't beat the dogs we should start tanking. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #26 – April 07, 2014, 09:00:00 am Quote from: madbluboy – on April 07, 2014, 08:57:11 amThe next 4 weeks we'll know where we're really at.Ground zero against the worst side in the comp MelbourneStep up against the dogs.Another step up against the EaglesThen the finals bound pies.If we lose to Melbourne god help us.If we can't beat the dogs we should start tanking.Should beat Melbourne but the Dogs will be tough...Minson will slaughter Warnock and I'll have money that Dalhaus gets his usual bag of goals as well.Having Judd back might give us the edge and cover up some cracks....Eagle and Pies..I'll settle for competitive games... Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #27 – April 07, 2014, 09:14:14 am I'm not banking this one. Roos will see his chance for grabbing a much needed win. After that, well who knows - the aybyss? Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #28 – April 07, 2014, 09:20:24 am Stop ginning around and pick a real side, that would be a start.Wood first ruck, Warnock into seconds. Casboult second ruck and tall forward. Robbo seconds - give Graham or Cripps a run. Drop Garlett, also drop Tuohy or play him up the ground.Play Walker across half forward as he is a liability in defence.Elevate Scotland or tell Gibbs he is playing across half back because the on ball experiment has failed. Quote Selected
Re: RD 4: Carlton VS Melbourne Reply #29 – April 07, 2014, 09:42:46 am B: Giles, Jamison, BuckleyHB: Yarran, Henderson, DochertyC: Thomas, Judd, CrippsHF: Walker, Waite, MenzelF: Garlett, Casboult, EverittR: Wood, Murphy, SimpsonI/C : Holman, Curnow, Graham, Robinson Quote Selected