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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: fitness
I dont know what the story is, but I remember being a young tacker, and wanting to really progress my training and working hard to my own detriment.

With experience, came maturity, and with maturity came the understanding that even though I am impatient to play, and gain and re-gain, the experience taught me that rushing back too soon, can often cause more grief.

The coach can only select you, if you are declared fit.  The fitness staff can give you advise, a clean bill of health, build you a program, but they cant feel how each athlete is feeling.  If the athlete thinks they will be ok, but is not certain, the onus on them is to how risky it is for them to play.  You will notice that someone like Walshy, who is the consumate professional, comes back and stars knowing he is right to play.  I reckon Weiters is 50-50 and plays a bit hurt, but he might play within those limitations understanding his body, and another who seems good at picking this is Cripps.  Now Key position players have the benefit, of being present, and not having to compete to provide value, but running players, who we rely on getting up and down the ground need to have a good understanding of their body to declare themselves ok.  If they push that little bit harder, and they arent ready then all of a sudden go ping, that has to be partly on themselves.  We can externalise this to Russell, but IMHO, do so at our own peril.  Last fitness bloke who copped grief about our strength and conditioning was replaced by someone who arguably was worse until we got him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Quote from: DJC on
All of our defenders and our defensive structures stood up very well to intense pressure last week.  Apart from Petracca, all of the Melbourne forwards were well beaten.

I would be inclined to go with the same seven this week unless there’s a compelling match up for Williams AND he’s completely fit.

I reckon he is straight back in for indigenous round.

Its happened before. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Quote from: Lods on
We probably need to consider the quality of opposition when comparing combinations.

Which block is the better, given who we beat, and where we currently sit?

Team-margin -current ladder position

Tom DeKoning rucking

Brisbane  +1 (currently 13th)
Richmond +5 (currently 17th)
North Melbourne +56 (currently 18th)
Fremantle +10 (currently 9th)

Pittonet /DeKoning sharing the load

Adelaide -2 (currently 12th)
GWS +19 ( currently 5th)
Geelong -13 (currently 2nd)
Collingwood -6 (currently 8th)
Melbourne +1 (currently 4th)


Probably most important to consider.

Whom it was against.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: Baggers on
Until the 'heat' arrived in the 2nd half. Those of us who are critical of Ollie are not critical of his endeavour and effort. And we're not saying he's no good, or should not be out there. Simply observations of his inexperience in tight and physical situations. He's a ripper... with things to clean up on, especially hurting the opposition with his disposal, strengthening his body to stick tackles, surety by hand and foot in pressure situations... they'll come in time. But they're real shortcomings at present.

And everyone looked amazing in our first half, until the Go Dees brought the heat, then the wheat was sorted from the chaff.

He wasn't the lone ranger and a couple of errors shouldn't eclipse a rather important role he played in us having a 5 to 0 headstart at quarter time.  Even his caught in possession moments it was facing his opposition and getting caught by third man in from behind.  That's on his teamates not letting him know he's hot IMHO.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
One thing I think the umps stuffed up.  Mcgovern juggled a mark, had two hands on it, and Petty knocked it out of his hands.  Play on the call.

That's a mark every week, and there was a few of those last night.  Wet weather footy, you can't make players hold it with an opponent punching it out.  Melbourne scored on the back of one of those.  Must have been 3rd quarter as it was the non punt road end.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Quote from: Baggers on
I think there is a fair bit of hindsight going on, 3 Leos. At the time, we just didn't know. Worst case scenario seemed plausible and frightening.
Science and pollies were all on the back foot and unsure, and most were doing their best.
I don't recall any vaccine manufacturer claiming 100% safety; they spoke of the potential -- albeit low -- risk for some people, hence staying in surgeries/pharmacies for 15 minutes after the innoculation before leaving. But as troubling as it was to know, there was a low risk for some folks, as there is with every medication/vaccine.
In hindsight some pollies overreacted and some under-reacted. Few got it right - in hindsight.





Not really Baggers.   By the time the vaccines came around we had a much better view of the virus and its potential to cause harm.  The worst case scenario wasn't happening.  That much was obvious in health care. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Quote from: PaulP on
There are very few areas in life that don't involve a risk to benefit comparison. Apparently, 2 or 3 per 100,000 people vaccinated with AZ ended up with TTS. Granted, nobody wants to be one of those 2 or 3, but all things considered, there are a great many people who reaped the benefits of having an AZ vaccination (not to mention their close associates and loved ones) and very few that did not.

The issue is that the data used to support both sets of numbers were used to paint a picture.

The adverse reactions to the vaccines under reported as coincidences.  Likewise the number of people significantly impacted by covid were over stated.

The vaccine companies (all) made wide sweeping shonky claims afmbout efficacy to go with it and you end up with a scenario where most people questioned what the best outcome was going to be. 

When you strip it all bare, covid was no walk in the park.  It isn't the killer it was made out to be either but it left the general public questioning what was the lesser of two evils and real doctors were silenced on the matter and it became politicised.

Where you sit in any of it is subjective and largely determined by personal choices but I saw some extremely autocratic behaviour which I'm hoping never gets repeated.