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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #75
Just watching the last bit of Blues Radio. Ang and Kouta get right into it, especially Ang. Entertaining as always.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #76
We seem to be able to attack or we can defend but we can't seem to attack and defend at the same time.  It seemed to me that 20 minutes into the third quarter Carlton stopped trying to kick goals. The midfield just wanted to have stoppages and the forwards were only interested in stopping the Melbourne defenders run. When only one side is trying to score only one side will. Our tackling was a lot better this week and we were a lot smarter going forward this week in the first two and a half quarters. O.Hollands is being caught too often while Pittonett had another good game though Gawn got on top late. Winning is always better than losing so this week was better than the past two but we need to learn to put our opponents away and stop trying to hold on from a long way out. We also seem to be getting taken apart by the opposition best player.  Rankine for Adelaide, Cameron for Geelong, Daicos for Collingwood and now Pertracca for Melbourne. Big game next week.

 

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #77
For those getting stuck into hollads I'll say re watch quarter 1.


He set us up in a big way. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #78
For those getting stuck into hollads I'll say re watch quarter 1.


He set us up in a big way. 
Agree, other than getting caught a couple of times, I thought he tried hard and played well.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #79
Port Adelaide: You Carlton guys are pathetic at how you give up big leads sooo easily!
Hang on... hold my beer.
2024... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #80
For those getting stuck into hollads I'll say re watch quarter 1.


He set us up in a big way. 

Until the 'heat' arrived in the 2nd half. Those of us who are critical of Ollie are not critical of his endeavour and effort. And we're not saying he's no good, or should not be out there. Simply observations of his inexperience in tight and physical situations. He's a ripper... with things to clean up on, especially hurting the opposition with his disposal, strengthening his body to stick tackles, surety by hand and foot in pressure situations... they'll come in time. But they're real shortcomings at present.

And everyone looked amazing in our first half, until the Go Dees brought the heat, then the wheat was sorted from the chaff.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #81
Until the 'heat' arrived in the 2nd half. Those of us who are critical of Ollie are not critical of his endeavour and effort. And we're not saying he's no good, or should not be out there. Simply observations of his inexperience in tight and physical situations. He's a ripper... with things to clean up on, especially hurting the opposition with his disposal, strengthening his body to stick tackles, surety by hand and foot in pressure situations... they'll come in time. But they're real shortcomings at present.

And everyone looked amazing in our first half, until the Go Dees brought the heat, then the wheat was sorted from the chaff.
He reminds me of Skinny Lappin who became a legend for us.
I think he didn't have any touches in his first two games!
If this forum was around then he would've been a lightning rod for negative comments.
Lucky it wasn't.
Ollie just need to do his job and learn his limitations and play to that. Oh and build his core strength.
2024... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #82
He reminds me of Skinny Lappin who became a legend for us.
I think he didn't have any touches in his first two games!
If this forum was around then he would've been a lightning rod for negative comments.
Lucky it wasn't.
Ollie just need to do his job and learn his limitations and play to that. Oh and build his core strength.
Reminds me a bit of David Glascott......if he can be half as good I would be happy.


Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #84
Ollie Hollands comprehensively outplayed Ed Langdon who, until recently, was the wingman every team wanted.  Yes, Langdon got a few possessions in the second half but he did nothing with them.

Ollie is in his second season and he has a lot of development ahead of him.  That doesn’t detract from the fact that his first quarter was outstanding, and was an important factor in our five goal lead, and his game was his best yet in navy blue.

Enjoy his success and look forward to continual improvement but don’t focus on the few errors he made, no more than Crippa, Walsh, Weiters and our other seasoned campaigners made.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #85
Ollie has a long way to go but has time on his side.


Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #87
Until the 'heat' arrived in the 2nd half. Those of us who are critical of Ollie are not critical of his endeavour and effort. And we're not saying he's no good, or should not be out there. Simply observations of his inexperience in tight and physical situations. He's a ripper... with things to clean up on, especially hurting the opposition with his disposal, strengthening his body to stick tackles, surety by hand and foot in pressure situations... they'll come in time. But they're real shortcomings at present.

And everyone looked amazing in our first half, until the Go Dees brought the heat, then the wheat was sorted from the chaff.

He wasn't the lone ranger and a couple of errors shouldn't eclipse a rather important role he played in us having a 5 to 0 headstart at quarter time.  Even his caught in possession moments it was facing his opposition and getting caught by third man in from behind.  That's on his teamates not letting him know he's hot IMHO.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #88
Gee, two things late in that game.

Firstly, we are still panicking with the footy and using it poorly, it's like we aren't able to stay composed and we are letting opposition back in mostly through poor ball use.

Secondly, what the feck were some of those free kicks to the Dees, and the non-free to us for virtually the same, and how the hell can those decision all of a sudden become so one sided!

I saw the behind the goals vision of Petracca throwing Hewett to the ground, and the central umpire was standing at our CHB position watching and did nothing! The Dees repeatedly take the footy and try to charge through the pack, it's play on or ball up, Cripps is the only player trying to actually pick the ball up in the middle and gets pinged!

To add to the above what about McLovins no mark in the goal square?? Its either a mark or chopping of the arms

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #89
Just got home  from the game, having a JD to settle the nerves. We did panic a bit in the last quarter and lost our structure.
Take the win and the possitives from the first half and move on.


I was there and agree, we panicked in the last. I did feel when Cerra wehnt down they started to get back into the game.  Anyone 4 points in the bag, :)