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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Baggers – on
That is the unknowable, Pauly, and such an assumption would be illogical to the extreme. But what we do know is that under Fly in this hypothetical, we would have had a different game plan and a different kind of leadership, and from there... who knows.

I disagree Baggers. In a complex system like a football club, one person cannot make that much of a difference. We’ve seen this often enough. There is an interplay between the individual and the group/ organisation.  They affect and transform each other to varying degrees. I’m not suggesting in any way that a coach makes no difference, but the balance of power is very much with the organisation, and the organisation shapes the individual a lot more than the other way round.

I should also add that I don’t believe our culture is c r a p. I think we’ve built some good foundations in the last few years, but there are clearly some pieces of the puzzle that are missing.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 14 2025 Carlton vs Port Melbourne
Last post by Baggers -
Early on we looked a lot like the seniors, but then 'took the game on' with risk, dare and run, run, run. And created a good win.

With Crippa and Weiters both mentioning 'next 8 weeks' in their media interviews it would seem the club has given up on any finals aspirations. If so, gotta have a look at the kids at senior level.

We got to see more of Moir's footy IQ. Much better game. Put his hand up.
Pitto, after a slow start, took over in the ruck. Put his hand up.
Frankie E was dangerous and also put his hand up, which probably means we'll promote Durdin.
Liked Charleson's game, coming along nicely. Not yet.
Cow would be an automatic replacement for the concussion protocols Saad.
Ben C, once the digit was extracted, was influential. Maybe.
For mine, Lemmey still doesn't have enough 'authority' in his game... close, though. Nothing to lose giving him serious consideration - give him a taste. We already know what we're getting with Young (the obvious spot to be filled by Lemmey).
Carroll also put his hand up, but I'm a little biased... love his attitude.

I'm guessing the MC probably believes that we've already got enough kids in the side so would be conservative in making changes. Pity.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 14 2025 Carlton vs Port Melbourne
Last post by bobby -
Quote from: Lods – on
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Easily Moir's best game. Plenty of touches, 17 of them and 4 goals. Encouraging.

Ben Campo's last half was terrific after a slow start.

I think we've all seen it with Moir.
It's one of those things were a player just looks a class above when he moves and with some of the things he does.
For those players with this X factor, sometimes the difficult looks effortless and just comes naturally.
The problem in the past has been that he's had trouble finding the ball.
That's improving.
It may not be time yet, but since he's been playing a bit on the ball he's looking like he could be the goods.
 

Yes Moir looked good. His work in the middle was good but I worry when/if he plays in the senior team. We kick backwards the opposition gets back we bomb it in and good movers like him don’t get chance to shine. If the balls coming in fast and he can move around use his flair then great. He won’t get as easy contested marks next level up. Nice game all the same and we need to find out what he can do. Really like the versatility with both feet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: PaulP – on
After 9 or 10 separate attempts, the “wrong bloke” ship has well and truly sailed. Are people seriously believing that if McRae was our coach we would be sitting 13-2 on the ladder?
its really hard to mount any argument to the contrary but IMHO, with fly at our club and vossy st their club, my suspicion is that things would be largely the same.
If you put Verstappen in a mini minor, and me in a Ferrari 488 Pista, Ill beat him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: PaulP – on
After 9 or 10 separate attempts, the “wrong bloke” ship has well and truly sailed. Are people seriously believing that if McRae was our coach we would be sitting 13-2 on the ladder?

That is the unknowable, Pauly, and such an assumption would be illogical to the extreme. But what we do know is that under Fly in this hypothetical, we would have had a different game plan and a different kind of leadership, and from there... who knows.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 14 2025 Carlton vs Port Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
One player who didn't really shine last night was Binns
14 disposals was very un-Binns like.

If he was the target of the Voss spray last week you would think it would have sparked him up.
Or it may be he's resigned to his fate. :(

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 14 2025 Carlton vs Port Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: laj – on
Easily Moir's best game. Plenty of touches, 17 of them and 4 goals. Encouraging.

Ben Campo's last half was terrific after a slow start.

I think we've all seen it with Moir.
It's one of those things were a player just looks a class above when he moves and with some of the things he does.
For those players with this X factor, sometimes the difficult looks effortless and just comes naturally.
The problem in the past has been that he's had trouble finding the ball.
That's improving.
It may not be time yet, but since he's been playing a bit on the ball he's looking like he could be the goods.
 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by pinot -
Im tired of rose colored glasses.
Voss has been a little unlucky with injuries and Elijah being a disappointment as he is exactly what we need right now.
Can't put that on Voss.
But Voss is far to stringent in his ways to loosen the group up to play more freely - you cant have Fogarty and Lord delivering majority of ball inside 50 when we have better kicks and fails to be brave.
Top bloke and want him at the club - taking over Lloyds job preferably. But a damn crap tactical coach.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: PaulP – on
After 9 or 10 separate attempts, the “wrong bloke” ship has well and truly sailed. Are people seriously believing that if McRae was our coach we would be sitting 13-2 on the ladder?
its really hard to mount any argument to the contrary but IMHO, with fly at our club and vossy st their club, my suspicion is that things would be largely the same.