Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Reply #5928 –
Thry, my wife and I have been double vaccinated since July and expect to get a booster shot late January.
Just as an aside, my immuno-compromised brother and his wife moved from Sydney to Byron Bay a fortnight ago to live close to their adult children. So far he has been unable to find a doctor who is not into "wellness" and natural remedies.
Last night he told me the local schools are having trouble remaining open as up to 40 percent of the teachers are refusing to be vaccinated.
I understand. This is a very delicate, and difficult thing for people.
No one wants to cause harm to anyone else, right?
So, when I hear that my colleagues 16 year old daughter has multiple class mates who have ended up in an Emergency Department with heart rates well over healthy levels, on the back end of receiving a vaccine, and our Triage Managers son who is in his 30's was admitted and is no longer able to drive a car because of myocarditis, and is now on a treatment plan for that and inelligible for a second vaccine, then what?
Sure. This is anecdotal. My anecdotal account of the pandemic doesn't quite measure up to the threat most people pin to COVID either, but, I am not stupid enough to believe that this is anything but my anecdotal view, when you hear it backed up by others, it changes things, and does raise some concerns and questions.
We also need to be mindful that being fully transparent about vaccine side effects is a hinderance to "getting back to normal" because it will cause hesitancy in those who are truly unsure what they should do. Not just here, but globally. No one wants to hear that the vaccines aren't perfectly safe when they have been administered on a scale globally the way they have. Not when the companies producing these things have basically signed away the liability to the individual receiving. Not when people are starting to resume normal life, economies of scale are starting to return to normal, the government gets to avoid funding hospital beds for covid patients to quote yourself to the tune of $4000 a day, to administer a relatively cheap vaccine to make our covid problem dissapear and resume normality.
Thing is, are they just filling everyone with a false sense of security?
I don't have these answers. When I hear first hand accounts of vaccine side effects, vs a lack of first hand of covid positives, it starts to make one a bit concerned that they are being hoodwinked. When you work in and among front liners (I just completed setup of an area for the COVID community pathways call centre and have spoken to those staffing it and what they are seeing in the community of covid positives that arent in hospital or perhaps not even needing treatment), it makes it even harder to believe, but not impossible. So we come to forums like this, and get told to get back into our boxes and stop asking questions. I still think vaccination is the right thing to do, but maybe the risk assessments surrounding who gets and who shouldn't is the part that needs to be done better?
The one thing I did before I got vaccinated, is understand, that the only thing I know, is that I know nothing, it then becomes a matter of what and whom do you believe. Sure, you can believe everyone that tells you vaccination is the key to beating covid. yes, but the cane toad was once the answer to a different issue and it was backed by science, and has created its own problem. Will the vaccine do similar? I have no choice but to believe the health professionals, but when the counter argument is an argument that literally suits nobody then what?
Understand something. When the world is returning to normal, and we still have people asking questions, odds are its because those questions have some validity to them. Not just "dissenters" or "conspiracy theorists" or anti vaxxers. When you see people attacking the validity of the question, without any real investigation or reasoning, then that in itself is a warning sign worth paying attention to.
https://pestsmart.org.au/toolkit-resource/how-did-the-cane-toad-arrive-in-australia/