[1] Lewis Young: after getting leather poisoning, 13 possessions in the 1st quarter, he went off injured. The way he was playing ... Don't want to go there. Hope he isn't done for the year.
[2] Flynn Young: 5 possessions, backing up after last night. Considering that he kicked the first goal, it was a very disappointing effort.
[3] Harry Lemmey: 10 disposals, but kicked 2 goals.2 clearances and 3 tackles, and 1 tap. Considering our kicking, I guess we can't complain, but I was hoping for more. We were an extremely short team today and needed our couple of talls to stand up. At least Lemmey kicked 2 goals. Cox (Coll) only kicked one, and that was from a really dodgy free. he just dropped to the ground like something dead and the umpire fell for it.
Great wins by the VFL boys and the VFL girls. 2 out of 3.
Indeed, 2 out of three, and two damned close ones that we stole. May it happen every time we play Collingwood: we owe these maggots a hell of a lot of pain!
Carlton: 12 - 11 - 83 Meat Pies: 11 - 13 - 79
We turned the clearances around totally: 40 to 24! That is a huge change over the first half. We had so much more of the ball: 400 possessions to 327, but don't use it well. I wonder where we've heard that before. At least the youngsters have a bit of ticker!
Jaxon Binns: 28 possessions, 2 clearances, 3 tackles and a goal: a much improved effort. But, he still makes it hard for his team mates with his kicking. Will Hayes: 26 possessions, 6 clearances, 4 tackles and a goal. We miss him when he doesn't play. Ben Camporeale: 26 possessions, 8 clearances and 4 tackles. Ben seems to play better in the 2nd half of games. he often starts slowly, but come home with a wet sail. His brother tends to do the opposite. Lucas Camporeale: 24 possessions, 2 clearances and 4 tackles.
We lost the taps, but really came home with the clearances.
What a waste of a quarter. Carlton 3 - 3 - 21 Collingwood 3 - 3 - 21 We get the first 3, they get the last three.
123 disposals to 92. We got 1 free for the entire quarter! 40 marks to 27. We're down in the ruck and at stoppages: we've only got 1 ruckman, while Collingwood have 2.
Lewis Young: 13 possessions! That's more than he usually gets in a game! Phillips has 9.
{1] Orazio Fantasia: 8 possessions, 1 clearance, 1 tackle, 1 goal. [2] Jesse Motlop: 8 possessions, 1 clearance, 2 tackles and 2 goals. (Probably the best of them on the night.) [3] Lachie Fogarty: 7 possessions, 1 clearances, 3 tackles and 0 goals. [4] Ashton Moir: 9 possessions, 1 clearances, 1 tackle and 1 goal. For all that, Moir did show something. He took a couple of very nice marks and his clearance was a centre one. [5] Tom de Koning: 11 possessions, 3 marks, 1 clearance and 0 goals. [6] Francis Evans: 12 possessions, 7 marks, 0 tackles and 2 points.
Flynn Young had 6 possessions for 1 quarter, and hit more only miskicked twice.
At least the girls won, although it took a huge number of AFLW listed players to manage it: Carlton: 6 - 5 - 41 Collingwood: 5 - 7 - 37
Brooke Vickers; 27 possessions to lead all comers.
I saw a highlight of Keeley Skepper slotting a goal from the boundary just as the siren went to put us in front. Not sure if that was to win the game or if it was at one of the breaks. Can you confirm?
Many of our non-listed players have been going better than some of the senior listed players.
Darcy Hogg and Heath Ramshaw have been good. Vickery hasn't been as good recently, but he started excellently. Stevens and Hayes have been good value and Phillips has been excellent.
Alas, there is the problem in a nutshell. You look at the 2's and you see glimpses of system, good chains of run and carry, the sort of thing you look for in the 1's. [5] Tom de Koning was awful tonight. He barely touched the ball in the forward line or in the ruck. Just 11 possessions, and most of them were junk. I would almost drop him, he is playing so badly. He has never had much defence to his game, but his play at the moment is deplorable.
This is what i'm hearing/reading about tdk tonight, however on afl.com.au match report they listed him as best player. Either the writer was drunk or tdk was indeed bad but the rest of the team was far worse than bad... While the result wasn't unexpected, the resolve shown by the team apparently left a lot to be desired. It's going to be a long 7 weeks.
Whoever thought Tom was amongst our best couldn't have been watching the game; of Tom's 11 possessions, I can recall only one leading to a scoring shot, and that he missed from 30 m out.
We didn't have a lot of good players last night; we were out-muscled, out-thought and totally without confidence. The number of times in the last quarter when we could have got goals, only to squander the opportunity ... No, I don't want to think about that. I'm not masochistic enough.
Who were our best players? Pitto tried hard and wasn't embarrassed. He was probably beaten on the night, but he wasn't as poor as Tom was. He tool 3 marks and won his share of taps. It wasn't his fault that Collingwood's centre craft got most of the clearances. Cowan: his run straight at the ball approach was pretty good on the night. 20 possessions and 8 marks was definitely worth mentioning. Williams: Honestly, Zac was probably our best player for the first 3 quarters. He had 19 possessions, 3 goals and 4 clearances, but it was the way he got his clearances that was impressive. He not only ran forward, but his disposal was excellent, hitting targets inside 50. It wasn't his fault that Charlie and Tom couldn't hit the side of a barn (from inside). When he got hurt, it really affected the way we moved the ball. Nick Haynes continues to impress, not only with his marking, but his willingness to have a go. Had he been able to hold a couple of tackles ... If wishes were horses, we'd all be up top our necks in horse kaka. Ollie Hollands: If there is any youngster who has stood up this season, it is Ollie. His gut running and persistence really stood out: 24 possessions and 6 tackles. Cripps and Cerra tried, they even got reasonable numbers (Cripps had 9 clearances, for example), but Collingwood's system in the middle really hurt them. It allowed the Daicos boys and Pendlebury to run unfettered out of the centre square. And with their superior disposal, our goose was cooked.
I will mention Charlie Curnow, who had 9 marks, 18 possessions and 4 scoring shots: that is a huge increase compared to recent performances. He was one of the few who won one-on-one contests in our forward line. One thing I have noted in recent times is that Charlie is not clunking his marks. He more often than not two-grabs them, which isn't helping anyone. And then there was his kicking; 4 points from 4 shots isn't good enough. And his field kicking, usually one of his strengths, was awful last night, not giving his team mates any chance of getting the ball. Mind you, the passing to him was excremental as well. When our guys have a choice of an open small forward, nearer the middle of the ground, and Charlie leading to the wing, they picked Charlie every time. But then they missed the target and .... you get the idea. How many times open forwards were burnt last night I gave up trying to count. It was too depressing.
CARLTON B:B. Wilson (35), L. Young (33), M. Duffy (41) HB:H. Charleson (28), J. Boyd (37), R. Monahan (34) C: P. Dozzi (53), J. Binns (25), L. Camporeale (21) HF: C. Vickery (59), D. Hogg (70), L. Nelson (57) F:C. Durdin (19), H. Lemmey (31), W. White (38) R: F. Riley (56), B. Camporeale (16), H. Ramshaw (51) Int: O. Warburton (78), E. Phillips (55), A. Stevens (77), W. Hayes (54), D. Grainger-Barras (61) 23rd Player: O. Warburton (78) Em: K. Ferronato (50), O. Badr (62), Z. Harding (60), N. King (63), J. Polkinghorne (76), T. Logan (68)
IN: J. Boyd, D. Grainger-Barras, W. Hayes, L. Nelson, B. Wilson, L. Young OUT: M. Carroll, L. Cowan, F. Evans, A. Moir, M. Pittonet (AFL), S. Phipps-Parsons (calf)
Our opponents: COLLINGWOOD B: S. Glover (50), C. Dean (43), I. Smit (20) HB: C. Mulvogue (66), R. Eyre (58), J. Cochran (27) C: J. Watts (88), B. Grey (55), M. Mahoney (77) HF: J. Bennetts (71), W. Hayes (39), H. Mahoney (72) F: N. Howes (47), R. Mason (67), M. Cox (46) R: O. Steene (21), H. DeMattia (13), D. Kerr (81) INT: C. Willis (64), M. O'Brien (63), M. Kiraly (65), H. Kennedy (53), J. Murphy (79) 23rd Player: D. Kerr (81) EMG: A. Seivers (59), B. De Bolfo (51), L. Hude (60), T. McCarthy (80), B. Dowling (73), R. Maclean (61)
IN: C. Dean, D. Kerr, M. Kiraly, J. Watts, C. Willis OUT: T. Mitchell, R. Steele (AFL), J. Ryan (foot), N. Byrne (illness), B. De Bolfo NEW: Douglas Kerr, 18, 192cm, Oakleigh Chargers/St Kevins; Jake Watts, 21, 184cm, Shepparton Bears
My comments: [1] Our line-up looks awfully short this week. Riley as only ruck, Young at FB and Lemmey at FF are the only talls out there. That is a real structural weakness in my opinion [2] I hope Flynn Riley can stand up this week, as there isn't a lot of help for him. [3] Nice to see Denver Grainger-Barras out there. It will be his debut. I would like to think he can make a difference, but somehow, I find that thought difficult. [4] Will Hayes, on the other hand, is a super inclusion. He provides the leadership we lack.
We're broken and battered and devoid of confidence. It's going to be a long back half of the season.
Players don't trust the system and its obvious
Alas, there is the problem in a nutshell. You look at the 2's and you see glimpses of system, good chains of run and carry, the sort of thing you look for in the 1's. But across our entire list you see poor disposal and poor decision making. Our opponents know what we're going to do before we do, because we are very predictable. And our system doesn't stand up to those sides like Collingwood, who have a clear system and play to it. They believe in their system and the believe in themselves. We don't. [1] Collingwood's centre clearance work is designed to allow Nick Daicos first use of the pill. Other players are shepherded away, allowing him a free run. Our system doesn't allow a Cripps or a Walsh or anyone that sort of free run. Zac Williams found it for periods tonight; his centre square work was exceptional. Not only did he run out of the middle, but his kicks hit targets. He didn't just bomb the ball into the forward line. When he went off, our mids struggled. Cripps and Cerra did a mountain of work, but each of their possessions was under pressure; we got the ball on ability and guts, not system. [2] You could tell that our defence is a mishmash including a lot of young, inexperienced players, as we got into our team mate's road more often than the opponents'. That almost proved lethal a number of times. Weitering and Harry O'Farrell was the most obvious one I remember. We did the same thing when we played Richmond; it was one of the major reasons we lost that game. Clearly, our youngsters have played together enough, nor does it seem we trained together. HOF had a shocker. He didn't make body contact enough and he was out-worked. However, he has a future, but he and the rest have to inculcated with our plan before they screw up like tonight. [3] We lost an amazing number of one-on-one contests tonight, which is rare for us. Collingwood took contested possessions far too easily. Carroll and O'Farrell will get better at it when they put on five to ten kgs of muscle, but they were not just the ones being beaten up. [4] Our small forwards are not looking up to scratch. They never seemed to be in the right spot to get the ball or to put pressure on. Every time the ball hit the ground in our forward line, a Collingwood player was ready and waiting for it, to run it out far too easily. Part of this problem is structural: we lacked key forwards. Part of it was our game plan, that wasn't working in the forward half at all. Part of it that most of our small forwards aren't good enough. [5] Tom de Koning was awful tonight. He barely touched the ball in the forward line or in the ruck. Just 11 possessions, and most of them were junk. I would almost drop him, he is playing so badly. He has never had much defence to his game, but his play at the moment is deplorable.